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Vicki ;You said;

Hi Ann! I think that William may be a sibling of Edward given the 6 year age gap and both being born in Yorkshire. I can't understand why I can't find Edward on an earlier census, how frustrating x



Have you read the census info I added?

He is a year older than William so say he is a middle child between Edward and William, but those 2 were born in Yorkshire, and Thomas is born in Sunderland? I'm not sure what to make of it x

d'you think Thomas could be another brother?

So it looks like the 3 male Wrathmalls living on Vine St in 1881 are Edward, George and William. William and Edward are possibly siblings as their ages are 47 & 53. However George is 29 so he may possibly one of their children?

1881 - same street as John and Elizabeth - they liked living close together this lot - just realised it's the same house!!

Thomas WRATHMALL Head M Male 48 Sunderland, Durham, England Police Constable
Mary J. WRATHMALL Wife M Female 54 Ireland
Mary J. WRATHMALL Dau U Female 17 Sunderland, Durham, England
Thomas WRATHMALL Son Male 11 Sunderland, Durham, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 30 Covent Garden St
Census Place Sunderland, Durham, England
Family History Library Film 1342204
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5002 / 24
Page Number 41

1881 - these live next door to the first lot - Edward - three families in the same street!

George WRATHMALL Head M Male 29 Sunderland, Durham, England Rivetter (Artz)
Mary WRATHMALL Wife M Female 28 Sunderland, Durham, England
Sarah WRATHMALL Daur Female 8 Sunderland, Durham, England Scholar
Phoebe WRATHMALL Daur Female 3 Sunderland, Durham, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 36 Vine Street
Census Place Sunderland, Durham, England
Family History Library Film 1342203
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5000 / 81
Page Number 59

take a look on this free site - shedloads of Wrathmalls

http://www.ancestorhunt.com/mormon_church_records.htm

Hi Ann, I didn't notice the same street, they have to have been related! How exciting x

1881

Charles WRATHMALL Head M Male 43 Stockton, Durham, England Mariner
Dorothy G. WRATHMALL Wife M Female 36 Sunderld, Durham, England
David D. WRATHMALL Son Male 15 Sunderld, Durham, England Errand Boy
John E. WRATHMALL Son Male 13 Sunderld, Durham, England Scholar
Charles H. WRATHMALL Son Male 11 Sunderld, Durham, England Scholar
Robt.D. WRATHMALL Son Male 8 Sunderld, Durham, England Scholar
Richard WRATHMALL Son Male 4 Sunderld, Durham, England Scholar
Jane E. WRATHMALL Daur Female 9 m Sunderld, Durham, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 17 William St
Census Place Bishopwearmouth, Durham, England
Family History Library Film 1342199
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4986 / 42
Page Number 24

JAMES WRATHMALL Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 06 JUL 1786 Kirkheaton, Yorkshire, England
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Parents:
Mother: Grace Wrathmall Family
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

noticed the first two I posted live in the same street - Vine Street

1901 England Census
about Edward Wrathnall
Name: Edward Wrathnall
Age: 73
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Doncaster, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Sunderland
Ecclesiastical parish: Sunderland St John
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: Sunderland
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Wrathnall 73
Sarah Wrathnall 75
Albert Wrathnall 40
Mary A Henderson 43
Eliza Henderson 18
William Henderson 21
James Henderson 15
John Henderson 13
Sarah Henderson 9
Edward Henderson 7
Albert Henderson 5
Henry Dixon 20



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1881

John WRATHMALL Head M Male 69 York, England Fruit Dealer Green Grocer
Elizabeth WRATHMALL Wife M Female 73 York, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 30 Covent Garden St
Census Place Sunderland, Durham, England
Family History Library Film 1342204
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5002 / 24
Page Number 41

1871 England Census
about Edward Wrathmall
Name: Edward Wrathmall
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Doncaster, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Sunderland
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: Sunderland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: East Sunderland
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 272
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Wrathmall 43
Sarah Wrathmall 42
George Wrathmall 19
Mary Ann Wrathmall 11
William Wrathmall 9
Albert E Wrathmall 7
Sarah Wrathmall 5
Phoebe Wrathmall 2


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Census - 1881 British Census
1. John WRATHMALL - 1881 British Census / Durham
Son Gender: Male Birth: Sunderland, Durham, England

2. John E. WRATHMALL - 1881 British Census / Durham
Son Gender: Male Birth: Sunderld, Durham, England

3. John WRATHMALL - 1881 British Census / Durham
Son Gender: Male Birth: Sunderland, Durham, England

4. John William WRATHMALL - 1881 British Census / Durham
Son Gender: Male Birth: Sunderland, Durham, England

5. John WRATHMALL - 1881 British Census / Durham
Head Gender: Male Birth: York, England

6. John WRATHMELL - 1881 British Census / York
Relative Gender: Male Birth: Cleckheaton, York, England

7. John WRATHMALL - 1881 British Census / Lincoln
Nephew Gender: Male Birth: Doncaster, York, England

Matches: Census/1881 British Census - 7

Hi Ann! I think that William may be a sibling of Edward given the 6 year age gap and both being born in Yorkshire. I can't understand why I can't find Edward on an earlier census, how frustrating x

Edit: I will read through the 2 answers you have posted while I have been typing this! x

Matches: All Sources - 6
International Genealogical Index - British Isles
1. JOSEPH WRATHMEL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 13 SEP 1707 Mirfield, Yorkshire, England

2. JOSEPH WRATHMALL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 20 JUN 1736 All Saints, Wakefield, Yorkshire, England

3. JOSEPH WRAITHMEL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 26 NOV 1746 Mirfield, Yorkshire, England

4. JOSEPH WRATHMAL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 13 MAY 1759 All Saints, Wakefield, Yorkshire, England

5. JOSEPH WRATHMEL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 27 JUL 1776 Mirfield, Yorkshire, England

6. JOSEPH WRATHMILL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 20 DEC 1835 Independent Or Congregational, Cleckheaton, Yorkshire, England

Matches: International Genealogical Index/British Isles - 6

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International Genealogical Index - British Isles
6. William Wrathmell - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: About 1656 Of, Mirfield, Yorkshire, England

7. William Wrathmell - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: About 1656 Of, Mirfield, Yorkshire, England

8. WILLIAM WRATHMELL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 20 OCT 1681 Mirfield, Yorkshire, England

9. WILLIAM WRATHMELL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 03 MAR 1689 Mirfield, Yorkshire, England

10. William Wrathmell - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 03 MAR 1689 Mirfield, Yorkshire, England

11. WILLIAM WRATHMELL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 05 NOV 1692 Mirfield, Yorkshire, England

12. William Wrathmell - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 05 NOV 1692 Mirfield, Yorkshire, England

13. William Wrathmell - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 05 NOV 1692 Mirfield, Yorkshire, England

14. WM. WRATHMELL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 13 FEB 1709 Mirfield, Yorkshire, England

15. WM. WRATHMAL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 19 FEB 1716 Mirfield, Yorkshire, England

16. WILLIAM WRATHMAL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 05 FEB 1798 Epworth, Lincoln, England

17. WILLIAM WRAITHMALL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 11 APR 1819 Saint Peter, Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England

18. WILLIAM WRATHMELL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 26 DEC 1836 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England

19. WILLIAM WRATHMELL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 14 DEC 1836 Kirkheaton, Yorkshire, England

20. WM. WRAITHMELL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 25 APR 1854 Barton Upon Humber, Lincoln, England

21. WILLIAM WRATHMALL - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 07 APR 1860 Pontefract, Yorkshire, England

22. Willie Wraithmell - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 27 AUG 1880 St Michael'S Church,Thornhill, Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England

23. Willy Wraithmell - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 27 AUG 1880 Thornhill Nr, Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England

Matches: International Genealogical Index/British Isles - 18

1881 - possible connection

William WRATHMALL Head M Male 47 York, England Canvas Weaver
Margery WRATHMALL Wife M Female 36 Sunderland, Durham, England
Hannah WRATHMALL Daur Female 13 Sunderland, Durham, England Scholar
John William WRATHMALL Son Male 7 Sunderland, Durham, England Scholar
Robert Carr WRATHMALL Son Male 4 Sunderland, Durham, England Scholar
Ellen Ann WRATHMALL Daur Female 2 Sunderland, Durham, England
Edward WRATHMALL Lodger U Male 24 Sunderland, Durham, England Labourer


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Source Information:
Dwelling 2 Vine Street Open
Census Place Sunderland, Durham, England
Family History Library Film 1342203
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5000 / 97
Page Number 11

1881

Edward WRATHMALL Head M Male 53 Doncaster Sail Cloth Weaver
Sarah WRATHMALL Wife M Female 50 Newcastle, Northumberland, England
George WRATHMALL Son M Male 29 Sunderland, Durham, England Rivetter Ship Bld
Mary A. WRATHMALL Daur M Female 21 Pontefract, York, England
William WRATHMALL Son M Male 19 Sunderland, Durham, England General Lab
Albert WRATHMALL Son U Male 17 Sunderland, Durham, England General Lab
Sarah WRATHMALL Daur U Female 14 Sunderland, Durham, England
John WRATHMALL Son Male 7 Sunderland, Durham, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 34 Vine Street
Census Place Sunderland, Durham, England
Family History Library Film 1342203
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5000 / 80
Page Number 58