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Well found, FBG, ref 1901 census

I looked at the image for relationships etc - and made the elementary error of not checking ALL the info

The Craggs children are residing at Barlow's Yard - nestling between 77 Ryhope St. South, and the Queen's Head Inn. It would seem reasonable to deduce that they were in some sort of one-roomed dwelling in the back yard of the Barlow home.

I have deleted all references to the Barlow family, to avoid possible further confusion.

The marriage you posted looks very promising

Wild theory time..
Williams middle name is Williams,so a Craggs/Williams marriage search throws up this very likely one for his parents.
And using the Mary E from Passenger lists it would seem even better.
And it is in the correct Reg District.

Marriages Mar 1883
CRAGGS William Sunderland 10a 763
WILLIAMS Mary Elizabeth Sunderland 10a 763

But of course we still come back to the William Williams Craggs birth cert being the only real way forward,or back as the case may be,for proof.

I have to go now.
I will have another try later.

On the 1901 image William and Jane are not at the same address as the Barlows,but next door.

I have seen older children left at home that are working as William was like it on other census where the transcriber just lumps them in with one of the next door lot as they lack the word"head".

I'm going to have to go now - duty calls.

But I'll check in later to see how things are progressing

So would I Flick,so would I !

Shall we ask him to come tell us?

The birth cert is now absolutely vital

I'd love to know how trebo worked his way back to 1750!!!!!

Name: Wm W Craggs
Birth Date: abt 1889
Age: 11
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 31 Mar 1900
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Queenstown
Ship Name: Campania
Search Ship Database: View the 'Campania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Cunard Line
Official Number: 102086

Travelling with
Mary E (wife)aged 44,but no Husband with her.
Annie aged 6
Jennie?aged 9<<<Jane??

The births of the children are a little out,but I do think it is them coming in.

Edit.
I like working with you Flick,you are to the point,which I like.

And the 1890 census of US has only about 1% that has survived I think,so he wont be found on it I dont think.

Maybe passenger lists?

I will check.

I can't see him in 1891 - possibly in the States.

The birth cert for William (1885) will probably be needed to find father's details

I'll be around for 20 mins or so....................

Hope I wasn't treading on your toes FBG - not my intention

I will leave you in Ficks very capable hands for now as it looks as though she is going to go for it and try to get the link.

Are you Flick?

I will look in later to see how its going?

Too many cooks and all that?

1901

Name: William Craggs
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Gender: Male
Where born: Tyne Dock, Durham, England

Civil parish: Ryhope
Ecclesiastical parish: Ryhope St Paul
Town: Ryhope
County/Island: Durham
Country: England


William Craggs 15
Jane Craggs 12 born USA

Name: William W Craggs
Death Registration Month/Year: 1956
Age at death (estimated): 71
Registration district: Durham Eastern
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1a
Page: 312

You will need to follow William back through the census,then his father to get that far back to see if it is correct.
You may have to buy some certificates along the way to verify everything.
Start with the 1911 census that I have posted and work back from there.

You cant just jump from William Craggs 1885 to Robert Craggs 1750 without the bit in between to prove it all.

Trebo may well be right,but wouldnt you like to see how?
To know it is so?

had a reply from a gent called trebo that gave a link too his tree, he gave me robert craggs d.o.b 1750, says it my great great great grandad. this all new to me. how do link my grandad william to robert. where do i look.

With what please Rita?

Do you want the census going back?
You tell us exactly what you would like and we will do our best.

Name: William Williams Craggs
Year of Registration: 1885
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: South Shields
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 680

need help please thanks

Hello Rita.

Then I believe I have the correct family in 911 census.

And correct parents marriage.

But his birth cert will confirm it

Do you need more help or can you take it from there?
viv

he is the george craggs born 23 dec 1914, death 1978.married in 1944 too rita place

Some of Georges siblings?Just the ones mentioned,there do appear to be a few more.

Births Jun 1920
Craggs Frederick Scott Easington 10a 1255

Births Mar 1925
Craggs Ellen Scott Easington 10a 881

Births Mar 1931
Craggs Jennie Scott Easington 10a 759


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A possible marriage.

Marriages Dec 1905
CRAGGS William Williams Sunderland 10a 1148
SCOTT Mary Jane Sunderland 10a 1148

But of course your fathers birth cert will have his mothers name on to confirm it.

And if that Is correct then here they are in 1911

CRAGGS, William Williams Head Married M 26 1885 Coal Miner Putter Tyne Dock C/o Durham
CRAGGS, Mary Jane Wife Married
6 years F 24 1887 Ryhope C/o Durham
CRAGGS, Thomas William Son M 4 1907 Ryhope C/o Durham
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
30252 Reference:
RG14PN30252 RG78PN1744 RD555 SD5 ED5 SN56

Registration District:
Sunderland Sub District:
Ryhope EnumerationDistrict:
5 Parish:
Ryhope

Address:
12 Nicholson St Ryhope Near Sunderland C/o Durham County:
Durham


The image says that 3 children have been born and 2 have died.