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Hi Again

Still trying to sort out this family

According to the 1891 Census Annie want to live with Henry and Hannah Pointer (Aunt and Uncle) . This seems OK for Annie but I am not sure about her Uncle.

Pointer Henry Married 45 born 1846. All OK but in Fordham Essex , which is a long was from Long Sutton Hampshire as stated in the 1851 census .

BMD Poynter Henry b march qtr 1846 Farnham 4 149

Farnham is in Hampshire and was the registration district at that time after it changed from Farnborough.

Are they two different Uncle Henry or do I need to find another Annie?

Anne

Have managed to find the death of George Poynter. The reg is March qtr 1880 at Milton Kent, but still can't find his birth.

Now looking for his children

Charles Pointer -1851 census - age 11 b 1840 Long Sutton
died Reg as Charles Poynter Sept qtr 1860 at Farnborough
Can't find his birth

James Pointer -1851 census -age b 1843 Long Sutton
Can't find birth, marriage or death

Henry Pointer reg March qtr 1846 Henry Poynter At Farnham.
Can't find his marriage or death.
Still searching for the others
Anne

Hi
I am now looking for the birth and death of George Pointer ( Pynter, Poynter) He married Jane Knight in dec qtr 1838 in Farnham. In the 1841 census he was born 1816 in Hampshire. In the 1851 he was born 1819 at Long Sutton Hampshire.

Thanks Anne

Congratulations.. that was a good bit of detection. Two Charles, I wonder if he was just visiting!. Mind you I wouldn't have wanted to transcribe that ledger!
Thanks all your help. I would never have got through it alone

Anne

Fancy that, mistranscribed! Pretty sure it says Poynter on the census


1841 England Census
about Jane Pynter
Name: Jane Pynter
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Where born: Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Odiham
Hundred: Odiham (Lower Half)
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Hartley Wintney
Sub-registration district: Odiham and Crondall
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Pynter 25 <<<<<<<Ag labourer
Jane Pynter 25
Charles Pynter 1
Charles Pynter 18

Most did back then!

Heres the marriage of Stephens parents. Im sure Ive come accross Knight and Pointer together somewhere

Marriages Dec 1838 (>99%)
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KNIGHT Jane Farnham 4 119
POINTER George Farnham 4 119

Thanks for the death date. he died young!!
Anne

My you have been busy in my absence

the family is definately the Medway family.
Anne

Hi Back again,
I have been using the "Find my Past" census :-

1861 George -Father, Stephen b1852 age 20
1871 At Hussey's farm , Stephen b 1852 age 19
1881 Station Row Rainham, b 1852 age29
1891 Station Row Rainham b 1842 age 49

the 1891 census the birth date is incorrect as the address is the same and Florences birth dates match 1881 & 1891. So I think Stephen was just having a brain storm.

Do you have Ancestary,? if so could you look for Stephen's death. I have let Ancestary lapse and won't renew untill after the summer.

In the 1841 census the family is living in Romsey which is about 40 miles away from Long Sutton.I am not sure that this is them,but I can't find anyone else.

Thanks your help
Anne

Looks like he was born 1852 hes here with daughter Fanny

1901 England Census
about Stephen Pointer
Name: Stephen Pointer
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Father-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Wells, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Rainham
Ecclesiastical parish: Rainham St Margaret
Town: Rainham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Milton
Sub-registration district: Milton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 150
Household Members: Name Age
William Plum 31
Fanny Plum 25
Annie M Plum 3
Robert G Plum 1
Stephen Pointer 49

Anne

So there were 2 Stephen Pointers around with roughly a 10 year age difference

Deaths Jun 1905 (>99%)
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Pointer Stephen 63 Thanet 2a 566

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Deaths Dec 1910 (96%)
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Pointer Stephen 59 Milton 2a 559

I will come back to you in a while. I am putting it on Roots and in that way I am trying to sort out the family. Sometimes you can get too close.
Anne

I feel like I’m undertaking a re enactment of the Spanish inquisition asking you soooo many questions - soz about that

So at least we now have Henry on the radar

However, I’m not happy that Stephen age keeps changing by 10 years

The census I posted with Stephen and daughter Florence, the age is different again?

Have a look and let me know if I have posted the correct one


x

Oh I think you have cracked it

I was getting so bemused by the change of spelling and the number of Annes, I did not do enough searches

Thanks again

Anne

Yes .....you are right .
The Family bible starts with the marriage of Stephen and Mary Ann Rowell. I was so happy to find the rest of the family that Stephen just came along for the ride, so to speak.
The whole relationship is complicated on the Rowell side as Mary Ann's Daughter Lizzie went to live with her sister Anne Rowell and married my Grandfather and then Anne Rowell married my g grandfather, Lizzie's father in law .
The Froyal to Raimham ( Milton)part is OK .

Anne

1851 England Census
about George Pointer
Name: George Pointer
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Long Sutton, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Long Sutton
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Farnborough
Sub-registration district: Farnborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
George Pointer 32
Jane Pointer 36
Charles Pointer 11
James Pointer 8
Martha Pointer 7
Henry Pointer 5 <<<<<<<<<<<The brother who married Hannah
Ann Pointer 3
William Pointer 1






1861 England Census
about Stephen Poynter
Name: Stephen Poynter
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Long Sutton, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Long Sutton
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Farnborough
Sub-registration district: Farnborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 60
Household Members: Name Age
George Poynter 43 <<<<<Ag labourer
Jane Poynter 45
Ann Poynter 13
William Poynter 11
Stephen Poynter 9
John Poynter 7
Harriet Poynter

Anne

Where have you got his age from?

On the 81 census he down as 29 and his wife 38, a big age difference, although not unheard of

I just cant see him on other censuses using that birth year and along with not finding his birth registration it's starting to ring alarm bells

No

Unfortunatly I have not been able to find him either. have assumed he was not registered.
Anne

Have you got that birth certificate for Stephen, I cant see a record for 1852?

Ginny

Yes you have the right family the children were dispersed after their Mother's death in 1886.

census 1881 RG No 11 Piece 975 Folio 20

Stephen Poynter
Mary Ann - wife
Florence - daughter
Alice - Daughter
Anne- Daughter
Address - Station Row, Rainham Kent
Anne