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Marriages Jun 1941 (81%)
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Hannaford Joan Francis Plymouth 5b 1114

Is Nash a red herring now or is it the right one???

???????? Doesn't match the DOB on death index
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Births Dec 1885 (>99%)
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Nash Clara Maud Wandsworth 1d 600

We need Gordon to give some feedback

Aargh, I put the wrong names in my last post previous apge

Marriages Dec 1911
Algar William Plymouth 5b 613
> Blight Maud Plymouth 5b 613
Collins Mary Plymouth 5b 613
> HANNAFORD Henry Plymouth 5b 613

Looks like she was born Plymouth then,,So where does Kent come from..
I will join you with the brandy please Jan.

I vote for BL/BRright as all kids+1 are there from OP.

They are supposed to have moved to Devon following the father/husband leaving the Army

When did Joan die?

Did the person registering her death know when she was born?

If he was military, they may have lived in Dover when the kids were young, between 1917 and 1923 births.

My grandparents lived briefly in Dover after WWI, right around that time, because of him being in the Dragoon Guard or something.

The names certainly match up for those births. The GRO index does say Bright for the 1885 Clara Maud birth, but it could be a mistranscription from the certificate.

Yup, we need some feedback. Things like

- do the ages of the Hannaford-Blight children match up with the ages of Joan's siblings?

Well, it's Bright in 1891 for that one so it's not looking strong ...


Name: Clara M Bright
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Richard
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England

Civil parish: St Andrew

Richard Bright 31 - general labourer
Mary J Bright 29
Lilly B Bright 9
Rosa Bright 5
Clara M Bright 6
Elsie Bright 4
William R Bright 2


... but that one seems neither to marry nor to die ...


Here are those ones in 1901 in Plymouth St Andrew:

Mary J Bright 39
Rosa Bright 18
Maud Bright 16
Elsie Bright 14
Stanley Bright 8
William Bright 7

Gordon does say c1920 for Joans birth Flick,so may not be sure if she died when he was young?

Janey..
Only Joans mmn on ref seems to be mistranscribed or entered wrong ,all others are Bright,so why is 1891 Clara census not good?

Oh, what? Der.

But -- the marriage I found is BLIGHT.

I think it's quite possible Clara wasn't literate and pronunciation varied.


1911

BLIGHT CLARA 1881 30 Plymouth Devonshire
BLIGHT ELIZABETH M 1878 33 Plymouth

Hmmmmmm.

1911,no Clara or Maud at home now.

BRIGHT, Mary Jane Head Widow F 49 1862 House Wife Devon Plymouth
BRIGHT, Fredrick Stanley Son Single M 18 1893 Apprentice - Painter Devon Plymouth
BRIGHT, William Son Single M 17 1894 Apprentice - Painter Devon Plymouth
BRIGHT, Albert George Grand - Son M 4 1907 Devon Plymouth

So who is Alberts mother then ????

Does the 1911 info for Clara in my post above match up with

Births Mar 1881
BLIGHT Clara Truro 5c 141

?

NICHOLLS, Nicholas Henry Head Married M 43 1868 Butcher Cornwall England
Plus more Nicholls

BLIGHT, Elizabeth M Servant Single F 33 1878 Shop Assistant Cornwall England
BLIGHT, Clara Servant Single F 30 1881 House Maid Cornwall England

So that's not Clara Maud Bright in the 1911, it's Clara Bright from Truro born 1881, and demmed if I can find Clara Maud Bright born Plymouth 1885.

Nor me.,,died?Or living with Mr Hannaford before marrying,,,
Hmm

Edit
Not under Hannaford either..

Joans birth cert is needed I think,to be sure of her parents names and then their marriage.?

Hmmmmm. Searching for Clara born in Plymouth 1884-1886 ... and recalling that she was called Maud in 1901 thus likely to keep using that name ...

SAUNDERS CLARA MAUD 1885 26 Plymouth Devonshire
living with
SAUNDERS LESLIE 1911 1 MONTH

the only other Saunders in the household.

No CMS birth to match, and no marriage of a CM to a Saunders that seems likely ...

And no birth I can find for young Leslie.

SAUNDERS, Clara Maud Head Single F 26 1885 House Duties Devon Plymouth
SAUNDERS, Leslie Son M 0 (1 MONTH) 1911