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Hi Jonesey,
I can't seem to find a marriage for Andrew and Mary --or one for Mary and William Best !! Have you any ideas please.
Best wishes
Barbara

Dorothy,

Despite the record stating that she is Lancelot's mother in law in 1881 I think that you will find that the woman Mary Best shown in the 1881 census is actually Lancelot's mother who is shown as Mary Browbank in the 1861 and as Mary Best in the1871 and 1881 censuses. If you compare the other "Best" childrens names and birthplaces in the 1881 census to those in the 1871 census you will see they are the same.

This could be Andrews (Lancelot 1861 dad) birth index

Births December (quarter) 1837
Brookbanks Andrew
Castle Ward 25 170

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I wonder if this is his Death index (maybe working away!!)

Deaths March (quarter) 1869

BROOKSBANK Andrew
age 32
Bradford Y 9b 160

Hi Barbara
The Launcelot married to Dorothy is definately my great grandparents i didnt know they lived in Howden le Wear.
one of the 10 children is my grandmother whilhelmina

However its laucelots father and mother im tracking down

All the info you and other have given me seems to be correct.
I have a quandry that Launcelots jnr seems to be living with William and Mary Best.
they have 5 children all named Best younger than Launcelot
On one census they even call Launcelot Best instead of Brooksbank

Hi Dorothy,
Is this the family you are looking at (for Lancelot's birth) ? In the 1911 census

1911 census transcription details for: Church St Howden Le Wear

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN29756 RG78PN1722 RD547 SD2 ED6 SN146


Reg. District: Auckland Sub District: Hamsterley
Parish: North Bedburn Enum. District: 6

Address: Church St Howden Le Wear
County: Durham


Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

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BROOKSBANK, Launcelot Head Married M 56 1855 Coal Miner Hewer Coxhoe Durham

AGE ON THE IMAGE IS 50 NOT 56

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BROOKSBANK, Dorothy Wife Married
30 years F 48 1863 Crook Durham

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BROOKSBANK, Launcelot Son Single M 27 1884 Coal Miner Hewer Willington Durham

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BROOKSBANK, George Henry Son Single M 16 1895 Hand Putter In Mine Below Ground Hunwick Durham

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BROOKSBANK, Rt Rowland Son M 13 1898 School Hunwick Durham

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BROOKSBANK, Henfrey Son M 10 1901 School Hunwick Durham

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BROOKSBANK, Wilhelmina Ellen Daughter F 8 1903 School Hunwick Durham

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BROOKSBANK, Frederick Allen Son M 7 1904 Hunwick Durham

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It says 12 children born to them 10 still living in 1911-- 2 had died

wow

you two are good

i ll look into that
Thanks Barbara and Margaret

More time on the computer may ;man will be pleased lol
Regards Dorothy (Dot)

Maybe getting a little nearer--1851 shows Andrew and his brother Lancelot ( who was living with Andrew and Mary in 1861 census) The surname now BROOKBANK and as stated on 1861 came from Northumberland

1851 England Census 1851 England Census
Name: Lancelot Brookbank
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Lancelot
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: North

Civil parish: West Denton
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image

Registration district: Castle Ward
Sub-registration district: Ponteland
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 119
Household Members:
Name Age
Lancelot Brookbank 36--Brickmaker--Northumberland
Mary Brookbank 41--Northumberland
Hannah Brookbank 15--Northumberland
>>>Andrew Brookbank 13--Brickmaker--Northumberland
Mary Brookbank 11--Northumberland
>>>Lancelot Brookbank 9--Northumberland
Elizabeth Brookbank 6--Northumberland
George Henderson 28--lodger--Brickmaker--Born Durham

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2413; Folio: 330; Page: 31; GSU roll: 87091.

I think your BVRI details are the ones too Margaret,Same parents as in 1861 census --It is confusing when names where spelt different most of the time.
Best wishes
Barbara xx

Sorry, Dorothy, I didn't mean to confuse you with the birth index, its just seemed about the right year, area, and the nearest surname I could find for your Lancelot. I hope you find him in the end.
Best wishes
Barbara xx

I think that the one that Barbara found could well be the same one that I found on BVRI. Lancelot Brusbank was christened 8 April so probably born March quarter. The surname is spelled differently but Mary Jane's christening record was spelled Bowerbank.

Barbara
I m So confused but i will try to solve it
Thanks for all your help
Youre a star

Regards dorothy

Hi Dorothy
Does this mean you have dismissed the birth index I put on

Births March (quarter) 1860

BOWERBANK Lancelot
Durham 10a 276

I can't find this child (by this actual spelling of the surname) on any census ect.-- the nearest being the 1861 census
Best wishes
Barbara

Thanks a lot Margaret
It does seem from Jonessy tips that they did indeed get second names wrong


Regards Dorothy

His sister?

BOWERBANK, Mary Jane Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 13 May 1859 Recorded in: Kelloe, Durham, England
Father: Andrew BOWERBANK
Mother: Mary
Source: FHL Film 1514618 Dates: 1857 - 1900

Jonessy you are very helpful
Thanks for your help and tips are great

Regards Dorothy

Possible? From BVRI:

BRUSBANK, Lancelot Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 8 Apr 1860 Recorded in: Kelloe, Durham, England
Father: Andrew BRUSBANK
Mother: Mary
Source: FHL Film 1514618 Dates: 1857 - 1900

Thanks for your help Paula
regards dorothy

Marriages Sep 1880 (>99%)
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Brooksbank Lancelot Auckland 10a 270
Henfrey Dorothy Auckland 10a 270

Hopefully a copy of the cert will give you his fathers details.

1861 census

1861 England Census 1861 England Census
Name: Lancelot Bowbank
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Andrew
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Durham, England

Civil parish: Quarrington
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 34
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Bowbank 23 --Brickmaker--Northumberland, England
Mary Bowbank 22 --Durham, England
Mary Jane Bowbank 4 --Durham, England
Lancelot Bowbank 1 --Durham, England
Lancelot Bowbank 20 --brother--Brickmaker--Northumberland, England
Elizabeth Bowbank 17--sister-- Northumberland, England



Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3743; Folio: 48; Page: 7; GSU roll: 543180.

This could be him in the 1861 census?

ThName: Lancelot Bowbank
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Andrew
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Durham, England

Civil parish: Quarrington
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image

Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew Bowbank 23
Mary Bowbank 22
Mary Jane Bowbank 4
Lancelot Bowbank 1
Lancelot Bowbank 20
Elizabeth Bowbank 17