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Yes! The combination of Daisy Violet and Ethel, with their ages, and in Whitchurch. Charles E. must have been older than we thought - nothing surprising there. Thank you Choccy!

Morning Dorothy,

As Madmeg says 'you have to know where to look' and have subscriptions to the various sites available.

I am just one of many 'helpers' on GR (who I must admit enjoys a bit of a challenge).

Finding the family tree on the Ancestry site was definitely a bonus!

I'm sure Choccy will answer you, but here on GR none of us "helpers" are likely to be related to people who ask questions - we (I speak for myself only!) are just a bunch of sad nerds who like researching and know where to look.

Once someone gets a handle on your family, they can find stuff out very rapidly.

Thank you Choccy that's a lot of information, I shall start working on it: There are two of Charles and Bertha's children living: Norma and Violet . There are also 35 or more grandchildren, and some great grandchildren. Are you related? You seem to have the information at hand - or do you just know where to look?

That's wonderful: I'll follow them up and see what happens. How very kind people are!

Thank you, I will.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Edmund Stevens
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Purdue
Spouse Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 7 May 1880
Parish: St Mary, Kilburn
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden
Father Name: George Stevens - Bootmaker
Spouse Father Name: George Purdue (decd) - Bricklayer



Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint Mary, Kilburn, Register of marriages, P81/MRY, Item 006


Edmund's address - Overton, Hampshire
Mary's address - 130 Alexandra Road, Kilburn


Witnesses - George Thomas Beak and Sarah Jane Purdue

Marriages Jun 1880 (>99%)
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Purdue Mary Ann Hampstead 1a 1096
Stevens Edmund Hampstead 1a 1096

Births Jun 1853 (>99%)
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Purdue Mary Ann Whitchurch 2c 155

1911 -

STEVENS, Mary Head Widow F 58 1853 Maintained By Sons Hants Overton VIEW
STEVENS, Violet Daughter Single F 17 1894 Jam Bottle Labler Berks Newbury VIEW
STEVENS, Ethel Daughter F 14 1897 Berks Newbury VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6313 Reference:
RG14PN6313 RG78PN302 RD111 SD1 ED6 SN65

Registration District:
Whitchurch Sub District:
Whitchurch Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Whitchurch

Address:
Belgrave Whitchurch Hampshire County:
Hampshire

1901 England Census
Name: Violet Stevens
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Newbury, Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Whitchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: Whitchurch All Hallows
Town: Whitchurch
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Whitchurch (Hampshire)
Sub-registration district: Whitchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 52
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Stevens 47
Daisy Stevens 13
Violet Stevens 7
Ethel Stevens 4







Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1112; Folio: 53; Page: 8.

Tree on Ancestry has him born -


Births Dec 1883 (>99%)
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STEVENS Charles Edmund Kingsclere 2c 232



married Bertha Griffiths in 1921 in Liverpool -

died Liverpool 1950


There is a living Stevens.



Marriages Jun 1921 (98%)
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Griffiths Bertha Stevens Liverpool 8b 4
Stevens Charles E Griffiths Liverpool 8b 4

According to age at death he must have been born c1884.

You really need his marriage cert for a better idea of his age.

Christine

Charles E died in 1950, in Liverpool - that's the only thing that I'm absolutely certain about, as I was 4 at the time, and I remember it. The record of deaths indicate he was 66 which conflicts with my mother's information.

I'm sure of the Stevens. The family may have lived in Whitchurch Hants when Charles and Violet were born: Violet, who didnt marry, lived there till she died, and her grandchildren remember local people saying the family had lived there a long time (I only heard that today)

I'm astonished and a bit overwhelmed by the rapid response: thank you.

My mother (Violet, born 1923, daughter of Charles Edmund) knows very little about her father's family: Charles Edmund Stevens was "a year or two" younger than his wife, Bertha, who was born in 1900. Violet was younger than him, and lived in Whitchurch, Hampshire in later life, and that is probably where the family came from. She never married. Now my mother's just told me there were other siblings, including a sister Ethel. (Mum's 87, her memory's not the best but she's trying to help)
Charles was married, and spent the rest of his life, in Liverpool, where he died in 1950 after being an invalid for some years (I remember that)

Dorothy

it would help is you could be more precise about where in Hampshire that Charles and Violet were born

also do you know the occupation of their father and any more info on him, date and place of birth......

Births Jun 1894 (>99%)
Stevens Violet May Newbury 2c 234 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1898 (>99%)
Stevens Violet Mary Hartley W. 2c 187 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1903 (>99%)
Stevens Violet Edith Portsmouth 2b 401 Scan available - click to view
Stevens Violet Elizabeth A Farnham 2a 129 Scan available - click to view
Births Mar 1904 (>99%)
Stevens Violet May Stockbridge 2c 123 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1904 (>99%)
Stevens Violet Beatrice Havant 2b 398 Scan available - click to view

Do you know where Charles Edmund Stevens died, so we can work out his birth date (possibly)?
Thank-you

This is the 1901 Charles in 1911, father widowed, and no sign of Violet:
STEVENS, Edmund Head Widower M 50 married 28 years, 14 children, 13 living 1861 General Labourer Hants Emsworth
STEVENS, Charles Son Single M 18 1893 Butcher Hants Emsworth
STEVENS, Dora Daughter Single F 16 1895 Domestic At Home Hants Emsworth
STEVENS, Edward Son Single M 13 1898 School Hants Emsworth
STEVENS, Samuel Son Single M 9 1902 School Hants Emsworth
STEVENS, Arthur Son Single M 7 1904 School Hants Emsworth
STEVENS, Norman Son Single M 5 1906 School Hants Emsworth
RG number: RG14 Piece: 5472 Reference: RG14PN5472 RG78PN250 RD89 SD1 ED9 SN141
Registration District: Havant Sub District: Havant Enumeration District:
9 Parish: Warblington Address: 36 Queen Street Emsworth County:
Hampshire