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I wouldn't mind betting that this is his birth:-

Name: William Frederic Nichols
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Leeds (1837-1929)
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 466

Kath. x

That makes much more sense Vera.

Kath. x

On the 1911 census ( image) just checked...it is William F....it has been transcribed as William K .

Regards Vera

I'm still not convinced that the William K. Nichols in the 1911 census shouldn't actually be William F. Nichols. It says on the 1911 census that the couple have been married 12 years - but that would be wrong for William K. Nichols but right for William F. Nichols.

If you decide to buy the birth certificate please come back and let us know who Marie's parents actually were.

I still think we may be mixing up two families who have used similar names for their children.

Kath. x

Yes Kath, I have been looking at your 1901 census which has William Frederick as Drapers assistant (as William K is in 1911) but there is no registration in FreeBMD of a Phyllis in 1901, only Hilda. Perhaps they changed their minds after the census and kept the name Phyllis until 1906.....?
Hopefully the birth certificate will have mother Jane Booth.

If you are certain that the Marie Elizabeth Nichols who was born Leeds in 1903 is the person you are looking for then I agree with you that you need to buy her birth certificate.

Kath. x

Looks like this is going to be a childs birth certificate job to find out who 'Jennie' is/was

I am so pleased to see you are bothe confused as the marriage I found is

Marriages Mar 1898
Nichols William Neath
11a 940

RANFT Jennie Neath
11a 940

and Jennie ranft 1874 'does not compute!!!

I hope you are going to be able to solve this conundrum as I am currently baffled.......

Just checked image ....Jennie...but the enumerator could have heard it wrong...unless they filled it out themselves.

Regards Vera

This is confusing and I'm not sure whether there are two families mixed up here.

On the 1911 census it says William and Jennie are married 12 years.

That would make for the marriage being in 1899.

There is only one marriage then:-

Name: William Frederick Nichols
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Leeds (1837-1929)
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 971

On the page is Jane Booth.

This would suggest the names are Williaam F. Nichols and wife Jane as per the 1901 census.

The only marriage for a William K. Nichols is in 1892:-

Name: William Kneeshaw Nichols
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Leeds (1837-1929)
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 699

Also on the page is Jane Howarth.

I wonder if the 1911 census should say Janey instead of Jennie.

I think you need to see the image of the 1911 census.

Kath. x

Thanks Kath, something more to add to the doing it for free methods!

I put the name Marie Nichols living Leeds into the homepage search box. Only one comes up (born 1903).

Then click on the green "search again" button on the bottom right of the page.

When the next page comes up take the first name "Marie" out of the search box and put in Marie Nichols at the bottom where it says "other members of household".

The other Nichols living with Marie should come up.

If you search using a person's year of birth you have to take this out too on the second search.

Hope you can understand this - it sounds complicated but it's quite easy really.

Kath. x

Kath could you please explain your method 'cos my doing it for free seems to be missing out?

Thank you Vera, Kathleen and Moody Blue. I can boast finding father William K 1867 and sister Hilda but hadn't tried Dorothy, Phyllis or Jennie - not seen a marriage to Jennie either yet........ next job.
Perhaps I gave up too easily!

Frances

I think this is the same family in the 1901 census although the names are slightly different:-

Name: Dorothy Nichols
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William F
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Headingley Cum Burley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine
Town: Headingley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: Kirkstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 167
Household Members:
Name Age

William F Nichols 32, draper's assistant
Jane Nichols 27
Dorothy Nichols 1
Phyllis Nichols 1 month

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4245; Folio: 90; Page: 23.

Kath. x

911 census transcription details for: 21 Luxor Street Leeds
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN27110 RG78PN1550 RD500 SD5 ED19 SN260

Reg. District: Leeds Sub District: North East Leeds
Parish: Leeds Enum. District: 19
Address: 21 Luxor Street Leeds
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
NICHOLS, William K Head Married M 44 1867 Drapers Assistant Yorkshire Leeds
NICHOLS, Jennie Wife Married
12 years F 37 1874 Yorkshire Leeds
NICHOLS, Dorothy Daughter F 11 1900 School Yorkshire Leeds
NICHOLS, Hilda Daughter F 10 1901 School Yorkshire Leeds
NICHOLS, Marie Daughter F 8 1903 School Yorkshire Leeds
NICHOLS, Phyllis Daughter F 5 1906 School Yorkshire Leeds

Just using the free search these people are in Leeds with Marie Nichols:-

NICHOLS DOROTHY F 1900 11 Leeds Yorkshire West Riding
NICHOLS HILDA F 1901 10 Leeds Yorkshire West Riding
NICHOLS JENNIE F 1874 37 Leeds Yorkshire West Riding
NICHOLS PHYLLIS F 1906 5 Leeds Yorkshire West Riding
NICHOLS WILLIAM K M 1867 44 Leeds Yorkshire West Riding

Kath. x

1911

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NICHOLS, William K Head Married M 44 1867 Drapers Assistant Yorkshire Leeds VIEW
NICHOLS, Jennie Wife Married
12 years F 37 1874 Yorkshire Leeds VIEW
NICHOLS, Dorothy Daughter F 11 1900 School Yorkshire Leeds VIEW
NICHOLS, Hilda Daughter F 10 1901 School Yorkshire Leeds VIEW
NICHOLS, Marie Daughter F 8 1903 School Yorkshire Leeds VIEW
NICHOLS, Phyllis Daughter F 5 1906 School Yorkshire Leeds VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
27110 Reference:
RG14PN27110 RG78PN1550 RD500 SD5 ED19 SN260

Registration District:
Leeds Sub District:
North East Leeds Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Leeds

Address:
21 Luxor Street Leeds County:
Yorkshire (West riding)



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Regards Vera

All I positively know is

Births Mar 1903
Nichols Marie Elizabeth Leeds
9b 528

I have been trying to use logical trial and error with other names in 1911 searches but haven't managed to get the right combination!
Now taking the easy way out and asking if anybody can give me her family in 1911 please.

Many thanks,
Frances