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John Pascoe - Im confused!

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Julie

Julie Report 29 May 2010 16:35

I am getting confused.

I found, what I thought was my ancester, John Pascoe on LDS. He was, according to them, born in 1766 in Ayr in Scotland and was married to Martha Newman who was born in the Bristol area.

I have found around 10 trees on Ancestry with much the same information as myself, ie married to Martha, date of marriage and deaths are the same as mine, many of the children and their dates are the same.

But.... everyone else has John born in Somerset! I dont know where I have gone wrong here. How accurate is the info on LDS? (I always try to double check all my research anyway) I dont understand how I can have got this so so different from everyone else. Ive been back to LDS and the info is quite clearly there.

Im very confused here.....

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 May 2010 16:38

Bristol will come under Somerset

Back in those days it would have been a mammoth journey from Ayr to Bristol though!!!

Mary

Mary Report 29 May 2010 16:40

Don't take everything on LDS as gospel,there are lots of errors as many of the entry's are submitted and therefore not 100% true.

Maryb

Julie

Julie Report 29 May 2010 16:43

Lol - certainly would Anne! Do you think then, that I have got this wrong and he was born in Somerset? (His son, John, was born in Hanham, Bristol - just a stones throw from Mangotsfield where Martha herself was born).

I was very surprised to find a Scottish connection. As you say, its a long way and really doesnt seem feasible but I guess you can never be sure.

Funny how everyone else has something different (but the same as each other) and I dont understand why I didnt find the same thing!

Mary

Mary Report 29 May 2010 17:06

One tree says his parents were Israel Pascoe 1746 and Hannah.
There was a death for Israel in Pontypool 1803 so it could be correct.

Maryb.

Julie

Julie Report 29 May 2010 17:21

Yes Mel - I think that IS them. their son John certainly settled in the Trevethin area - in fact, I have just found the Baptist church where their great granddaughter got married and that in the Trevethin area too.

Mary - that is interesting as I found a death for Israel in Bristol in 1806 (although I have question marks next to it in my notebook!). But I think perhaps it may be more likely (Pontypool is in the Trevethin area too).

I was working on the basis that John was born in Bristol.

Im still a bit confused, but maybe for different reasons now!

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 May 2010 17:22

Israel PASCOE Compact Disc #17 Pin #258319 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Death: UNKNOWN
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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Alice FLOOK Disc #17 Pin #258318
Marriage: 14 Oct 1770
St George, Bristol

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 May 2010 17:22

4. ISRAEL PASCO - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 14 OCT 1770 St George, Bristol, Gloucester, England

5. ISRAEL PASSCO - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 18 AUG 1781 St James, Bristol, Gloucester, England

6. Israel Pascoe - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: About 1811 Nailsea, Somerset, England

7. Israel Pascoe - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: About 1811 Nailsea, Somerset, England

8. ISRAEL PASCO - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: About 1823 Of St Paul, Bristol, Gloucester, England

9. ISRAEL PASCO - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 06 JAN 1823 Llanhilleth, Monmouth, England

10. ISRAEL PASCO - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: About 17 OCT 1824 Tabernacle Penn Street-Calvinistic Methodist, Bristol, Gloucester, England

11. Israel Pasco - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 21 MAY 1826 Philip And Jacob, Bristol, Gloucester, England

12. ISRAEL PASCOE - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: About 1832 Of Clifton, Bristol, Gloucester, England

13. ISRAEL PASCO - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 17 MAY 1848 St Paul, Bristol, Gloucester, England

14. ISRAEL PASCOE - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 16 APR 1857 St Andrews, Clifton, Gloucester, England

15. ISRAEL PASCOE - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 16 APR 1857 Clifton, Bristol, Gloucester, England

Julie

Julie Report 29 May 2010 17:22

Oh, Mel's post has disappeared now....

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 29 May 2010 17:25

Sorry I deleted by mistake!!!!!

1841 Wales Census
about John Pascoe
Name: John Pascoe
Age: 70
Estimated birth year: abt 1771
Gender: Male

Civil parish: Trevethan
Hundred: Abergavenny (Upper Division)
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Pontypool
Sub-registration district: Pontypool
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Name
John Pascoe 70
Martha Pascoe 70
Mary Pascoe 40


I meant to put down that he has no occupation on this census just Ind.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 29 May 2010 17:28

The address looks like Albionn Terrace.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 May 2010 17:50

I'm seeing a shedload of Pascoe's on the census but not one in Scotland - the vast majority from the West country

Julie

Julie Report 29 May 2010 17:59

Mel - whereabouts is the census taken? Is it Pontypool itself? Or could it be either Abersychan, Talywain, Garndiffaith or something else? I might be able to find the correct Albion Terrace then (sounds like a soap opera!)

Anne - I concur, and I think, going back to my original post, that the Scotland connection is phoney and that John WAS born in the West country. I know this isnt an exact science but sometimes the red herrings really get in the way!

Thank you everyone for your help, I really appreciate it xx

Mary

Mary Report 29 May 2010 18:11

Looking at lots of info and it seems the Pascoe families were from Nailsea Somerset which is 8 miles South West of bristol.

Israel Pascoe 1806 born nailsea Somerset.
1881 in Pisgah Square Trevethin Monmouthshire a coal miner.
wife Sarah born Kenn Somerset.

Maryb

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 29 May 2010 18:13

This is the3 Mary Pascoe on the 1841 census I put up earlier and her siblings, well some of them!
This is from LDS but it has batch numbers so should be right.


Mary Pasco Pedigree
Female


Birth: 03 MAR 1794

Christening: 14 JUL 1799 St George'S, Bristol, Gloucester, England


Parents:
Father: John Pasco Family
Mother: Martha

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C008936





1. Ann Pasco - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 07 DEC 1800 St George'S, Bristol, Gloucester, England

2. Mary Pasco - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 14 JUL 1799 St George'S, Bristol, Gloucester, England

3. Martha Pasco - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female

Birth 5 Aug 1796
Christening: 14 JUL 1799 St George'S, Bristol, Gloucester, England

Julie

Julie Report 29 May 2010 18:28

Mel - thankyou so much for this - it makes a lot of sense with what I already have. Re your comment about batch numbers - do you mean that if the entry has a batch number, its reliable and if its doesnt then its to be treated with caution?

Mary - talk about coincidence - you can see in my earlier post that I had found the church where my 3xg grandmother married - its actually Pisgah Baptist Church in Pisgah Road, Talywain.

I wonder if this Israel is John's brother? Their father was israel also, but was born much earlier and married to a Hannah.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 29 May 2010 18:47


1. JAMES PASCOE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male

Birth: 03 DEC 1802
Christening: OCT 1807 Kingswood School-Nc, Bitton, Gloucester, England

2. REBECAH PASCO - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female
Birth: 25 MAR 1805
Christening: 14 APR 1805 Kingswood School-Nc, Bitton, Gloucester, England

3. REBECCA PASCOE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female
Birth: 06 AUG 1807
Christening: 18 OCT 1807 Kingswood School-Nc, Bitton, Gloucester, England

4. SARAH PASCO - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 13 SEP 1809 Kingswood School-Nc, Bitton, Gloucester, England

5. JOSEPH PASCO - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male
Birth: 25 MAR 1805
Christening: 14 APR 1805 Kingswood School-Nc, Bitton, Gloucester, England


All children of John Pascoe and Martha or Jno Pascoe and Martha


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 29 May 2010 18:49

When you look on IGI familysearch.org if a record is Submitted it means that someone has submitted the record. If it is Extracted it is taken from the Bishops Transcripts and can be beleived.

Julie

Julie Report 29 May 2010 18:51

This is also useful - and intersting in that I have James and Sarah, just 1 Rebecca and no Joseph at all.

I will have to look into this - see if they died perhaps?

Thanks Mel x

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 29 May 2010 18:54

1851 Wales Census
about John Pascoe
Name: John Pascoe
Age: 85
Estimated birth year: abt 1766
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Somerset, England
Civil Parish or Township: Trevethin
Ecclesiastical parish: Trevethin
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Pontypool
Sub-registration district: Pontypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 2d
Household schedule number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Jones 35
Hannah Jones 28
Elinor Jones 1
Jane Miles 14
John Pascoe 85 1766 Somerset Lodger Retired Coal Agent<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


EDIT THE ADDRESS IS ALBION ROAD Trevethin