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Excellent. Thanks a lot.
Mike.

Well.... the only way to be sure would be to order all the Bassett certs and specify the parents concerned when ordering....

Thats expensive, depends on how badly you want the data!

T x

Another occassion to request the use of the Doctor's Tardis!!

Just been looking at Bassetts born in Brighton and can find one or two contenders for the missing children??

Mike.

I do wonder if Catherine had got confused over time?

Maybe she hadn't seen George/Henry for a while and assumed his death?

Maybe she had forgotten about him?



Tracey x

His disability seems to have been lack of cash!

Workhouses are seen in various ways, i think on this occasions he's simply there because they are the ones providing him with work!

They were not just for the poor, they did offer accomodation in exchange for work... i think on this occasion thats the case.


Tracey x

Yes I had this information although he seems to change from George Henry to Henry George on occasions?

I wonder if he might have been committed to the Workhouse through some disability or illness?

Catherine might have reverted back to Bassett due to some embaressment with Mr Crispe?

Mike.

Mike,

This is them in 1891.

1891 RG number: RG12 Piece: 813 Folio: 141 Page: 13
Reg. District: Brighton Sub District: The Palace
Address: 58, Russell Street, Brighton County: Sussex
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CRISPE, Henry George Head Married M 42 1849 General Labourer Camden Town London
CRISPE, Catherine Wife Married F 42 1849 Downham Market Norfolk
BASSETT, John Thos Son M 12 1879 Brighton mSussex
BASSETT, Charlie Son M 10 1881 Brighton Sussex
BASSETT, Bessie Daughter F 7 1884 Brighton Sussex
BASSETT, Thomas Son M 2 1889 Brighton Sussex
CHATFIELD, William J Lodger Married M 23 1868 Carpenter Brighton Sussex
CHATFIELD, Frances M Lodger Married F 22 1869 Needlewoman Brighton Sussex
SCHARSACH, Joseph Lodger Single M 33 1858 Waiter Hotel Paris France
SCHWARTZKOPF, Fritz Lodger Single M 39 1852 Waiter Hotel Mecklenburg Germany
FARRER, Mary Lodger Widow F 63 1828 Earls Court London


Tracey x

Any contributions gratefully accepted.

1881 census has him living in Farnborough as a lodger.

He was a soldier so this might explain his disapearance

Thanks, Mike.

Choccy is dead on...

1901 RG number: RG13 Piece: 927 Folio: 127 Page: 25
Ecclesiastical District: Brighton St Peter with West Blatchington St Peter
Address: Brighton County: Sussex
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CRISPE, Henry Pauper Inmate Single M 58 1843 General Labourer St Pancras London

Seems he's def in a workhouse, maybe the family could afford for the mother to be there (useful for the wives to look after the children) but not the father?

His marital status could have been assumed by the person giving the details at the workhouse?


T x

1911 census

Help yourself Choccy ! lol, which censes was that?


T x

Hope you don't mind me butting in, but think this is Henry Crispe.

He's in the Workhouse and said to be single, but born right area and right year -


CRISPE, Henry Inmate Single M 66 1845 Formerly General Labourer Middlesex Camden Town VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
5119 Reference:
RG14PN5119 RD79 SD1 ED31 SN9999

Registration District:
Brighton Sub District:
East Brighton Enumeration District:
31 Parish:
Brighton

Address:
250 Elm Grove Brighton County:
Sussex

Mike,

What was George's occupation?


T x

Looking att he 1911 and the 1901 census again, Thomas is in both.

So it's def her!

So..... what was she playing at?



Tracey x

I've managed to find her son John Thomas' wife Adelaide Alice's maiden name (Hopkins) so that's a start I suppose!!

Thanks for your help. Mike.

I agree.... she's living with the Bassett's as a Crispe.

However she's a Bassett widow in 1911 and George Henry is still alive?

Did he leave her? did she not know what to call herself?

I'm merely throwing the questions out to see what you think?



Tracey x

Well according to the 1911 census she has stated 11 children, 7 living and 4 have sadly died....

So you have some finding to do lol


Tracey x

Deaths Jun 1927 Crispe Catherine S 79 Brighton 2b 266

This looks like Catherine Salina did marry George Henry Crispe.

I have only discovered 8 of her children?

Michael,

Did she not know what to call herself?

She's a widow in 1911 and a Bassett, are you sure the Crispe lady is the same one?


Tracey x