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hi marreeninNy its me again

my nan emily maud hidden lived at 15 populor rd spakeshill woreshire
born 1894
how do i find out how long she lived there and who live d there ,before she went to 15 percy rd. i think now that harriot elizebeith or bessie moved out of there to this elizibeth kright because shes not on the list of percy rd,

im sorry i maybe asking to many questions but thankyou for your help
im goingh to get the marrige lines of james and mary next week ,i hope
xxx

That's the million dollar question,isn't it!

I have a feeling that Elizabeth Wright may be Mary Hidden's sister. Finding a marriage to Henry Wright isn't easy!
What was Mary's maiden name? Have you found the marriage certificate for her and James?

Maureen

hi marreeninNY
i do so appreate the work which has gone into this surname hidden,

my nan who was emily maud hidden who parents was james and mary hidden,

who is elibeth wright who took on harrit elibeth hidden at the age of 12, who was E wright married to,i m not sure weather H E HIDDON IS MY NANS SISTER , SO SORRY ABOUT THIS IM STILLCONFUSED

THANKYOU SO MUCH GAYLE

Hi Gayle,
Well,my thinking was that she dropped the Harriet somewhere along the line! I don't see another likely birth in the area.
You can order certificates from:
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Maureen

How would I go about doing that do you know?
Thanks for the speedy reply, much appreciated.
I'm wondering whether Mary is her mum and whether thats her first name or a middle name like Harriet Elizabeth is known by her middle name not her forename?

I think you're going to have to buy the birth certificate for that!

Maureen

Thankyou very much for the reply, would it be possible to find Harriet (bess) Elizabeth Hiddens birth certificate with her parents names signed on there by any chance as that would be extremely helpful in discovering if her mum was actually Mary who married James and became the Hiddens.

Hi Gayle,
"Bessie" is a nickname for Elizabeth. So the 1888/9 "Bessie" married Walter Try.
I could be wrong,but I have a feeling she was actually born as:
Name: Harriet Elizabeth Hidden
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Upton Upon Severn
County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 303

HTH,
Maureen

h imaureeninNY
thankyou so much for your help.i am bit confused about elizebeth and bessie, are the same personss or am i missing the plot, did elizbeth marry walter try od did bessie marry him, so sorry about this,
gayle

Oh! That's interesting. It looks as though "Bessie" was unofficially adopted by the Wrights. Henry Wright was one of the witnesses at her marriage to Walter Try.

1911 census transcription details for: The Old Bridge Cottage the Hythe Egham
RG14PN6685 RG78PN333 RD125 SD1 ED1 SN123

Reg. District: Windsor Sub District: Egham
Parish: Egham Enum. District: 1
Address: The Old Bridge Cottage the Hythe Egham
County: Berkshire
JOYNER, Arthur Boarder Single M 35 1876 Commercial Traveller Surrey
BRIGGS, Alice Visitor Single F 30 1881 Buyer London
WRIGHT, Henry Head Married M 53 1858 Cab Proprietor Gayton?
WRIGHT, Elizabeth Wife of Occupier Married F 49 1862 Letting Apartment Dudley Ports?
WRIGHT, Bessie Daughter Single F 22 1889 Sewing At Home Worcestershire

Maureen

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1901 census transcription details for: 14, Egham, The Hythe, Egham (Surrey), Egham

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 1165 Folio: 54 Page: 52

Reg. District: Windsor Sub District: Egham
Parish: Egham (Surrey) Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District: Egham St John the Baptist with St Jude's Englefield Green City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 14, Egham, The Hythe, Egham (Surrey), Egham
County: Berkshire
WRIGHT, Elizabeth Wife Married F 39 1862 Letting Apartments
Great Bridge
Staffordshire
HIDDEN, Bessie Niece F 12 1889
Castle Morton
Worcestershire

Name: Elizabeth Hidden
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Spouse Name: Walter Henry Try Occ:Engineer
Spouse Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 26 Dec 1911
Parish: St Mary, Staines
County: Surrey
Borough: Spelthorne
Father Name: James Hidden Occ:Gardener
Spouse Father Name: William Try

Maureen

hi A big thankyou for all the in fo and work put into it,
i have found some more info ,bessie married walter herny try ,

the try family come from staines , my late nan was emily maud hidden,
so i know bessei and emily maud are sisters, but she said she had only 1 brother called joe,i amtrying to find where bessie was born and see if her parrents are the same as my nan which is herny james hidden and wife mary holton that her maiadden name i do hope you can understand what i have put thankyou so much
gayle

1881 looks as if he is in service as quite a few other people in the household but have not printed them all

Susan BROOK Serv U Female 20 Malvern, Worcester, England Kitchen Maid Dom
Elizabeth COOKE Serv U Female 26 Newent, Gloucester, England Stillroom Maid Dom
James HIDDEN Serv U Male 18 Hanley, Stafford, England Boots Dom
Anne M. ELTON Serv W Female 35 Birmingham, Warwick, England Housemaid Dom


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Source Information:
Dwelling Worcester Road Trafalgar House
Census Place Great Malvern, Worcester, England
Family History Library Film 1341700
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2920 / 47
Page Number 24

1911. Children are the same. Mary is the same but James has changed into William Henry??


HIDDEN, William Henry Head Married
27 years M 39 1872 Farm Labourer Tipton Staffs VIEW
HIDDEN, Mary Wife Married
27 years F 49 1862 Wednesbury Staff VIEW
HIDDEN, William John Son M 10 1901 School Birmingham VIEW
HIDDEN, Sarah Mary Daughter F 12 1899 School Birmingham VIEW

Registration District:
Kidderminster Sub District:
Wolverley Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
Wolverley

Address:
Whites Building Foundry Bank Cookley County:
Worcestershire

1901 England Census about Joseph Hidden
Name: Joseph Hidden
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Yardley
Ecclesiastical parish: Sparkhill St John
Town: Greet
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Solihull
Sub-registration district: Solihull
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 105
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hidden 37 jobbing gardener ?
Mary Hidden 38
Jane Hidden 10
James Hidden 15
Joseph Hidden 5
Emily M Hidden 7
Rose Hidden 8
Sarah M Hidden 1

my nan name was hidden born in yardley worceshire, birmingham

1894
her sister was called bessie, and brotherjoe any one please help
her father was ainsurance agent named james
thankyou