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9 Jun 2010 22:12 |
P.S. There is a Maas in Co. Donegal.
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9 Jun 2010 21:59 |
Happy hunting,
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Eileen
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9 Jun 2010 21:20 |
OK Ozi, I will try that - thanks for your help. Eileen
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9 Jun 2010 20:53 |
If you get the cert through GRO there's no need for the other surname, just one of the couple's names plus the quarter, district, vol and page number.
I never give the other surname.
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9 Jun 2010 14:51 |
Hello Ozi, thanks for your message and i have noted all the points. I have a copy of the marriage certificate for my Richard John Rowley to Bridget Collins at Louth on April 21st 1870. There was some confusion because at one stage in my research I had info from members of genes Reunited which put 3 Richard Rowleys married to Bridget Collins and all in Louth!! As for Catherine's marriage certificate I know I can apply for a copy but I think they may need the partners surname as well but we will see. Thanks again. Eileen
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8 Jun 2010 22:47 |
Eileen, I think you'll find that the 1891 for James that Tania and Andy found is correct.
This is what I think, but it is not proof. In 1881 & 1891 John Conroy is living next to Richard & Bridget Rowley, parents of Catherine & James.
1881: John Conroy Bridget abt 1821 Longford, Ireland Head Louth, Lincolnshire Bridget Conroy John abt 1831 Ballantyne, Ireland Wife Louth, Lincolnshire
1891: John Conroy Catherine abt 1825 Longford, Ireland Head Louth, Lincolnshire Catherine Conroy John abt 1822 Mas, Ireland Wife Louth, Lincolnshire This includes James Rowley/Rawley who is an Oil Miller. Is the occupation just a coincidence with 1911 that ***alviegal*** found?
In 1881 John's wife is Bridget from Ballantyne, Ireland. I think this may be his marriage. Marriages Dec 1872 COLLINS Bridget Louth 7a 1307 <<<<<<<<<<<< Conroy John Louth 7a 1307 <<<<<<<<<<<< Day John William W Louth 7a 1307 HEWARD Elizabeth Louth 7a 1307 (This is pretty convincing that John Day married Elizabeth Heward: 1881: Elizabeth Day John abt 1843 Swaby, Lincoln, England Wife Louth, Lincolnshire 1851: Elizabeth Heward Samuel, Lydia abt 1842 Swaby, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Swaby, Lincolnshire)
You don't think this is a bit of a coincidence? Marriages Jun 1870 Collins Bridgett Louth 7a 1200 <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Darnill Henry Louth 7a 1200 Murphy Jane Louth 7a 1200 Rowley Richard John Louth 7a 1200 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
In 1891 John's wife is Catherine from Mas, Ireland. I cannot find a death for Bridget or a marriage for Catherine. They may be the same person considering Richard's eldest daughter is Catherine. Also Bridget Rowley in 1891 is from Maes, Ireland. Another coincidence?
Deaths Mar 1893 Conroy Catherine 60 Louth 7a 365
As for Catherine Rowley's marriage. You may have to buy the marriage cert. I've looked at Catherines & Kates born in Louth around 1870 in 1901 and can't find a suitable candidate.
Also don't get hung up on the spelling of people's names. Haven't you ever had your name spelled wrongly? In 1891 all the family is Rawley.
Hope this helps. Ozi
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8 Jun 2010 19:22 |
To: Ozi, Thank you for the information pity I cannot get further because of the missing name. If you have any thoughts on how that can be found kindly let me know please. Eileen
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8 Jun 2010 19:19 |
To : Sheila, Thank you for the information and I have been able to use it to progress further. Eileen
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8 Jun 2010 19:17 |
To : Andrew, Me again. The information regarding Catherine Rowley was very helpful and has enbled me to progress further. Thanks again, Eileen
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8 Jun 2010 19:15 |
To : Andrew' Thank you for the information you sent me but the spelling of the surname was not correct and the grandparents did not match my family either. Eileen
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8 Jun 2010 19:12 |
To : Tania, Thank you for your replay but I am afraid that was not the right person because the grandparents names did not tally. Eileen
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8 Jun 2010 19:09 |
To : alviegal, Thank you very much for your very useful information because I have now been able to use that to progress quite a bit further. Eileen
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7 Jun 2010 22:32 |
Marriages Mar 1892 HARRIS Sarah Jane Caistor 7a 953 Rowley Catherine Caistor 7a 953 Wilson Stephen Caistor 7a 953
Unfortunately there is one of the males missing on this.
Bummer, it's a possibility that Sarah married Stephen therefore unknown who married Catherine. 1901: Sarah Jane Wilson Stephen abt 1858 >>>Grimsby<<< Lincolnshire, England Wife York, Yorkshire
Stephen was married to an Annie in 1891.
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7 Jun 2010 22:28 |
James marriage,
St. Luke's Heneage Road 23/10/1918 ROWLEY JAMES MICHAEL age 47 a shipyard labourer of 35 Holles St father .. JOHN a deceased labourer
PYE ANNIE ELIZABETH age 44a widow of same address father... GEORGE PETCH GOOD a deceased gardener
Wits; ERNEST PYE and DORIS MAY PYE
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7 Jun 2010 22:27 |
Possible death.
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about James Rowley Name: James Rowley Death Registration Month/Year: 1935 Age at death (estimated): 61 Registration district: Grimsby Inferred County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 792
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7 Jun 2010 22:06 |
1911 census transcription details for: 28 Peppercorn Walk Grimsby National Archive Reference: RG14PN19951 RG78PN1197A RD422 SD1 ED6 SN204 Reg. District: Grimsby Sub District: Great Grimsby Parish: Great Grimsby Enum. District: 6 Address: 28 Peppercorn Walk Grimsby County: Lincolnshire Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born ROWLEY, James Head Married M 38 1873 Oil Miller Louth Lincolnshire ROWLEY, Annie Eliza Wife Married 7 years F 38 1873 Gainsbro Lincolnshire PYE, Beatrice Step-Daughter Single F 17 1894 Grimsby Lincolnshire PYE, Ernest Step- Son Single M 15 1896 School Grimsby Lincolnshire PYE, Doris Step- Daughter Single F 9 1902 School Grimsby Lincolnshire COLE, William Boarder Single M 55 1856 Dock Labourer Lowestoft Norfolk OAKLEY, George Boarder Single M 39 1872 General Labourer Belton Nr Grantham Lincolnshire
They had no children together.
Strange....there are these 2 marriages showing?
Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record View Record Annie E Pye 1915 Rowley Grimsby Humberside, Lincolnshire View Record James Rowley 1915 Pye Grimsby Humberside, Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a Page: 1061
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Name: James M Rowley Spouse Surname: Pye Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1918 Registration district: Grimsby Registration county (inferred): Lincolnshire Volume Number: 7a Page Number: 1482 Find Spouse: Annie E Pye
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7 Jun 2010 21:42 |
1891 England Census about Kate Rowley Name: Kate Rowley Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1871 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Louth, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Great Grimsby Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew Town: Great Grimsby County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Caistor Sub-registration district: Great Grimsby ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George Chapman 44 Sarah Chapman 42 Florence Chapman 17 Geo Victria Chapman 1 Grace Harper Simpson 60 Emma Seabrook 37 Nellie Brown 23 Rachel Plaskit 20 >>>>>>Kate Rowley 20 Louisa Cheales 18 George Browning 16 Andy
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7 Jun 2010 21:39 |
Possible for james?
1891 England Census about James Rawley Name: James Rawley Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Louth, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Louth Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael Town: Louth County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Louth Sub-registration district: Louth ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Conroy 66 Catherine Conroy 69 >>>>>James Rawley 17 Andy
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7 Jun 2010 21:35 |
1891 England Census about James Rawley Name: James Rawley Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Louth, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Louth Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael Town: Louth County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
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Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Louth Sub-registration district: Louth ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Conroy 66 Catherine Conroy 69 James Rawley 17
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7 Jun 2010 21:25 |
Can anyone out there tell me what happened to Catherine(1871) and James(1874). They were both born at Louth in Lincolnshire and appeared on the 1881 Census but neither were on the 1891 Census. I have checked marriage and deaths records for the years between but have not been able to find anything. Any explanations?
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