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Thomas Henry Morgon

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Jonesey

Jonesey Report 14 Jun 2010 20:50

Looks like it is your man then. Shame that he cannot be spotted returning to the UK.

HelsBels007

HelsBels007 Report 14 Jun 2010 20:41

Photo of shop has an "87" above the door!!
Looks like in 1893 his Hairdressers was at 87 Sussex St, Sydney.

Catherine

Catherine Report 14 Jun 2010 14:41

Oliver Robert being the brother of Thomas, this is him in 1871:-

Name: Olds Rlet Morgan
[Oliver Robert Morgan]
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Wlm
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Kennington
Civil parish: St George The Martyr Southwark
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: Kent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 82
Household Members:
Name Age
Wlm Morgan 39 - born: Exeter
Emma Morgan 36 - born: Cullompton
Olds Rlet Morgan 15
Ema Sarh Morgan 12 - born: Camberwell

Father's occupation is noted as Hair Cutter, so looks to be the correct family, but need confirmation from the marriage cert!
and
Where is Thomas?

Catherine

Catherine Report 14 Jun 2010 14:36

This looks to be Thomas in 1881:-

Name: Thomas H. Morgan
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: St George The Martyr, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Bristol St James and St Paul Out
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address: 200 Cheltenham Rd

Occupation: Hairdresser

Registration district: Barton Regis
Sub-registration district: Ashley
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Oliver Robert Morgan 25 - born: Lambeth, Surrey (Hairdresser)
Elizabeth Morgan 24 - born: Lambeth, Surrey
R.George Morgan
Thomas H. Morgan 16


birth of Thomas:-
Births Mar 1865 (>99%)
Morgon Thomas Henry St George S. 1d 129
The district St George S. is an alternative name for St George Southwark and it is in the county of Surrey

which will give you his parents names!

Catherine

Catherine Report 14 Jun 2010 14:15

Thanks Jonesey!

So date of birth is the same as that on 1901 census, which leads me to believe that that is him arriving in Australia in 1886, and he obviously came back sometime between 1895 and 1901.

What we need is the name of his father and his occupation, which should be on one of his marriage certs?

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 14 Jun 2010 11:46

Catherine:

Name: Thos H Morgon
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Age: 21
Arrival Date: 14 Nov 1886
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: London
Ship: Orizaba
Nationality: English

No original to view unfortunately.

>>Sands Directories: Sydney and New South Wales, Australia, 1858-1933

>> In 1889 a Thomas H Morgon operated a hairdressers in Castlereagh St, Sydney NSW

>> In 1893 Hairdressers at 87 Sussex St, Sydney.

>>In 1895 a T H Morgon had a tobacconists at 24 King St, Sydney.

Catherine

Catherine Report 14 Jun 2010 11:19

I'd be interested to know what it says on the record I posted:-
"Yesterday at 20:53" Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923
Immigration & Emigration

Could someone have a look at that one please?

jax

jax Report 14 Jun 2010 04:51

I think Helen has the marriage details but she needs to know when Thomas arrived in Australia and was he with his parents? as he was born in England

Peterkinz

Peterkinz Report 14 Jun 2010 04:41

Sydney, Australia it is....

You searched marriages for the Groom's name thomas morgon in the years 1885 to 1895
1 - 1 of 1 matches found


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Registration Number Groom's Surname Groom's Given Name(s) Bride's Last Name
at Time of Marriage Bride's Given Name(s) District * Purchase Certificate
1274/1889 MORGON THOMAS H NEWIT JULIA SYDNEY

jax

jax Report 14 Jun 2010 04:28

nudge up for anyone who can lookup Australian records

mgnv

mgnv Report 14 Jun 2010 00:27

I'ld go with Sydney - there is/was a St Michael's, Sydney abt 7 m NW of downtown - I was a bit thrown by the Victoria on the schedule, since Sydney's in NSW, but then I realized 19 Victoria is a regnal year like you get dating laws, etc.

jax

jax Report 13 Jun 2010 23:17

I cannot see any census with him on as a child so maybe he went to Australia with his parents before 1871. The only other way to find out who his parents were is to order his birth certificate to be sure

jax

HelsBels007

HelsBels007 Report 13 Jun 2010 23:14

Does anyone have any idea as to the parents, brothers and sisters for Thomas Henry Morgon?

jax

jax Report 13 Jun 2010 22:32

It looks like Thomas a Julia married in Australia as you said so if you can find someone who does Australian look ups that may help

Looks like Alice and John Clark only had the two children

And Thomas and Julia did'nt have any children with them in 1901 so either no they didnt have any or they could be away somewhere hard to tell really

jax

jax

jax Report 13 Jun 2010 22:27

Helen I have given you her marriage and birth details plus a census

jax

jax

jax Report 13 Jun 2010 22:26

Name: Alice Homewood
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Frances
Gender: Female
Where born: Camberwell, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 256
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Homewood 42
Frances Homewood 40
Thomas W Homewood 14
Emma S Homewood 10
Henery Homewood 8
Frances Homewood 6
Robert Homewood 4
Alice Homewood 2
Frederick Homewood 2 months


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HelsBels007

HelsBels007 Report 13 Jun 2010 22:25

Just thinking - if Alice Morgon married Thomas Henry Morgon in 1903 and had Alice Henrietta Morgon in 1905, who must she have been married to have sons that included CLARK, John Son Single M 19 1892 Railway Porter London Peckham, and CLARK, Henry Son Single M 17 1894 Grocers Assistant London Peckham. What would have been her maiden name?

Also, were there any children born to Thomas Henry Morgon and Julia Newitt?

jax

jax Report 13 Jun 2010 22:19

Name: John Clark
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 1034 (click to see others on page)

Alice Homewood 1891 Camberwell Greater London, London, Surrey

Name: Alice Phoebe Homewood
Year of Registration: 1869
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 619 (click to see others on page)

jax

jax Report 13 Jun 2010 22:15

could be Johns death

Name: John Clark
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 34
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 421 (click to see others on page)

jax

jax Report 13 Jun 2010 22:12

Name: Alice Clark
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Camberwell, London, England

Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Camberwell
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

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Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
John Clark 35
Alice Clark 32
John Clark 9
Harry Clark 7


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