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I'm thinking that Margaret Fitzgerald is not necessarily the mother but that possibly the Master has done the unthinkable with another servant and the child has been sent to Margaret as she was known to the family and had given birth appox a year earlier so would still have milk to feed the baby.

As you say, Janey - all supposition really.


Looks like his death in England - not the Kimberley diamond mines, though

Deaths Dec 1898 (>99%)
Hill Pearson 66 Kensington 1a 98

Oh good one. I like it. I'd just been checking out an Augusto Soares with a servant named Kate Fitzgerald in 1881 -- and in earlier censuses a son of the right age.

I have this problem with a great-aunt. She was born right before the 1891 census. She is said to be the daughter of the son of the household where her mother was employed -- and the fact that she has a surname for a middle name corroborates that. All I can do is guess at households in Nottingham with that surname and servants in the 1891!


In 1881, Pearson Hill is a Superannuated Civil Servant -- very possibly having been posted in Ireland!

In 1861 he is unmarried, a clerk, sec's office, with a bit mishmash after that -- general office port? -- anyhow, clerk in the office of a secretary, possibly secretary for Ireland, that sort of thing.

Oh .....groan BMD!

Found this - don't know if it could be useful - Pearson Hill is a superannuated civil servant, his wife is from Ireland. Could FKH be his??

1881 England Census
about Margaret Fitzgerald
Name: Margaret Fitzgerald
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: St John Hampstead
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 50 Belsize Park
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Housemaid Dom Serv

Registration district: Hampstead
Sub-registration district: Hampstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Pearson Hill 48
Jane D'esterre Hill 36
Jane T.E. Hill 11
Robert D'esterre Hill 6
Henry W. Hill 4
Frances Sarah Cooper 28
Martha Gore 28
Louisa Harris 26
Margaret Fitzgerald 22

Oh dear............ does that mean we're 3D?


Dee x

I'd meant to be asking that Patricia -- ambassador to Ireland? from Ireland? And yes, there would not have been such a thing anyway.

There *were* various top-level officials responsible for Ireland. I remember quite some time ago correcting the name of one in the censuses at Ancestry, in London somewhere ...

I cannot find evidence of Britain having an ambassador in Ireland in 1884 - they would not need one then.

I said DEE! I got it right this time. ;)

So that marriage matches with the 1911 info - 29 years married.

Which doesn't bring us closer to knowing where FKH came from, but it's all grist!

And how might we feel about:

Births Mar 1880
Fitzgerald Florence Katherine Camberwell 1d 890

?

No explanation of the Hewlett -- except maye that was her father's surname.

I shall go look for her ...

Just to confuse you all - I'm a Dee too!!!!

Ah, another runaway bride.

Marriages Sep 1881
Dryer Richard Fulham 1a 361
PANSEY William Fulham 1a 361
PAUSEY William Fulham 1a 361
WORDEN Elizabeth Fulham 1a 361


Here's my bet:

FITZGERALD Margaret Fulham 1a [3_]51

I got confused there -I am Dea - she is Dee !!

It was she who kept you off the wrong track !!

Dea x

Oh Janey........... the 1911 census is too rich for my mere pockets, sorry.

Oh lovely NJ, should keep Janey happy. XX

Full 1911 Janey - married 29 years

PANSEY, William Head Married
29 years M 54 1857 Night Watchman Chelsea London VIEW
PANSEY, Margaret Wife Married
29 years F 53 1858 County Cork Ireland Resident VIEW
PANSEY, William Son Single M 28 1883 Carman Fulham London VIEW
PANSEY, Charley P Son Single M 23 1888 Factory Hand Fulham London VIEW
PANSEY, George E Son Single M 19 1892 Labourer Fulham London VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
289 Reference:
RG14PN289 RG78PN9 RD3 SD3 ED23 SN116

Registration District:
Fulham Sub District:
North West Fulham Enumeration District:
23 Parish:
Fulham

Address:
30 Aintree Street Fulham S W

Another maybe for a marriage, but William has an occupation as a Labourer and not Carman/Coachman;

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about William Pausey
Name: William Pausey
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Spouse Name: Margaret Fitzgerald
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Jul 1881
Parish: St Andrew, West Kensington
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Father Name: Edwin Pausey
Spouse Father Name: John Fitzgerald


EDIT>>>>>>>>>> Sorry should have added Margarets address; 22 Oneill Street


Dee x

Oh, Dee, yes, you must apologize for keeping us off a wrong track! Snork. ;)

How 'bout that 1911 now - I don't remember whether you pay for that, but if you do I'll shamelessly demand it!

Sorry to jump in, here's the 1879 marriage for Margaret Carroll;

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Margaret Carroll
Name: Margaret Carroll
Spouse Name: Joseph Wooster
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1879
Parish: St Peter, Hammersmith
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Father Name: John Carroll
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Wooster


Dee x

This would be the way to find out who wife/mother Margaret in that Pawsey household was:

Births Jun 1888
PAUSEY Charles Patrick Fulham 1a 261

... and maybe whether she's connected to FKH.

I'm just wondering whether FKH came with Margaret, and Margaret and William were married after FKH's birth - or not at all.

I would really get the Charles Patrick Pausey birth cert. (I'm not finding one for older son William.)

Edit - duh.

Births Mar 1883
Pausey William Fulham 1a 306


Ha, the transcriptions just get worse -- will we ever know what the name really is?? It must read PAUSEY. (I know that one from all the Moncks transcribed as Mouck ...)

1911

PANSEY WILLIAM 1857 54 Fulham London
PANSEY MARGARET 1858 53
PANSEY WILLIAM 1883 28
PANSEY CHARLEY P 1888 23
PANSEY GEORGE E 1892 19


Found by looking for Margaret P*sey born in Cork.

Can anybody tell us what it says for how long married??

When Patricia then NinjaLady posted those Pawseys I had something in the back of my head that I'd seen. This doesn't fit, but it's kind of odd.


1891


Name: William Pugsy Hewlett -- it says PUZEY
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Harriette
Where born: Oxfordshire, England

Civil parish: Chiswick
Town: Chiswick
County/Island: Middlesex

William Pugsy Hewlett 48
Harriette Hewlett 47
Harriette Mary Hewlett 15
Ethel Lucy Hewlett 11 -- twin of Florence
Florence Kall Hewlett 11 -- Kate, of couse
Kate Hall 16


Three kids born Ryde, Isle of Wight.


Isn't that just odd??


Births Dec 1878
HEWLETT Ethel Lucy I. Wight 2b 585
HEWLETT Florence Kate I. Wight 2b 585


Coincidence, I guess! They're in Richmond, Surrey, in 1901. Yup, that FKH died in 1946 on the Isle of Wight. Well, there could be a family connection -- what with the Puzey and FKH -- so I'll leave it for curiosity purposes. ;)

I think we need Lawrence to tell us if a father was named on the marriage certificate.

Looks good -- spares me keeping on going with the guesswork for marriages. ;)

The 1891 actually says PAWSEY, I would say.


I'm wondering though -- this looks like William in 1881:

Name: William Paulsey
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Lodger
Where born: Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Fulham


Our William is a carman in 1891; this one is a coachman.

What do you think Janey/Patricia?

Marriages Dec 1879 (>99%)
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???????CARROLL Margaret Fulham 1a 480
???????Puzey William Fulham 1a 480
Snead Jane Elizabeth Fulham 1a 480
Wooster Joseph Fulham 1a 480


Although this doesn't sort out the parents!!



EDIT - No, not this one - thanks Batman's Daughter!!!!!