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which one is my granmother ?

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Madmeg

Madmeg Report 20 Jun 2010 21:01

I have pmd Graham with some advice. He is appreciative of that. Hope you will all come back when he has sorted it out.

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 20 Jun 2010 00:03

Oh Graham, I have just looked at your other thread, and I (and others) have just spent hours searching for stuff that has already been found. Do you know, some of us have other things to do with our lives? Not only that, we use up credits on other sites to find the information. This DOES cost us money.

Okay, so you don't understand the system. Genes is partly at fault here cos they refuse to put "Stickies" at the top of the boards, i.e permanent messages to advise people. But when you saw us repeating everything that had already been found, did you not think to say, thanks guys, but all this is on my other thread? Maybe not.

Or perhaps when you started this new thread, you should have said Hello folks, this is what has been found already. That would then alert us.

Even if you hadn't got another thread, it makes sense to tell us everything you know up front. How we hate people asking for info and then saying "yes I knew that".

You might feel that Janey is over-critical, and I (and others) have been at the receiving end of her criticism in the past, for not posting full information. When I was a beginner, I thought she was nit-picking, but really it is sensible to give us full information on each thread. And to only have one thread per family.

So now you realise how much time people have wasted, I think you should realise what you have done wrong, you have already apologised, and let's move on with a fresh approach.

Is there anything else that you know that you haven't told us?

Okay, anyone prepared to read my diatribe. Maybe we should stop referring to "threads". The Board actually refers to new "Topics". So perhaps we should be saying "Don't start a new Topic", or perhaps Genes should change their wording to "Thread".

Anyway Graham, we will consider you reprieved if you now give us any information that you already have, and tell us where you got it from.

Go for it!

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 19 Jun 2010 23:32

And I said and meant threads.



You are welcome.

Graham

Graham Report 19 Jun 2010 23:18

sorry Micheal and thanks for the advice. I will read the rules and try to do better next time.

ps. i did mean replies ||||

Mike *

Mike * Report 19 Jun 2010 22:53

I'm hoping he means several replies not several threads !!

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 19 Jun 2010 22:50

"several threads later" ????

Read the rules, please.

And show some consideration.

For info:
This that I am composing is "a post".
A new topic posted, on any board (and replies to it), is "a thread".

The thread to which I referred -- I gave the url (link) for it -- is from May, on the Surname board. Not this one. Have there beeen others?

To find any thread you have started or posted in, at any time, click "My threads" over on the left. Continue an existing thread when you have new information; don't start a new one. No one reading any thread has any idea what has gone before it, unless someone who read the previous one happens to read the new one and remember the old one. This means that people will waste their own time and effort doing what has already been done.

Nobody reading one of your threads knows there are others, especially if they were weeks ago on a different board.

Mike *

Mike * Report 19 Jun 2010 22:49

You weren't to know but nothing gets researchers more frustrated than to find work has been duplicated on a separate thread.
There is a rule, one post per family, for that very reason..
Consider yourself told off !

Graham

Graham Report 19 Jun 2010 22:42

janeyCanuck

Thanks for all your threads and apologise if your unimpressed. My original thread was trying to find the age of my granmother for which i had 2 possibilities. several threads later and lots of info leaves me puzzled. I appreciate everyones threads and as i'm new to this way of finding information don't know what i have done wrong.

Manythanks
graham

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 19 Jun 2010 22:21

And now I'm afraid I'm very unimpressed.

How many threads, Graham, and how much of this info has been pointlessly re-"found"?

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1220776

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 19 Jun 2010 22:12

Annie F Tunley?

TUNLEY, Thomas Fredrick Head Married
38 years M 63 1848 Carpenter London Marylebone VIEW
TUNLEY, Elizabeth Wife Married
38 years F 62 1849 Bristol VIEW
TUNLEY, Annie Francis Daughter Single F 26 1885 Sewing Machinist Linen London Hammersmith VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
246 Reference:
RG14PN246 RG78PN8 RD3 SD2 ED20 SN214

Registration District:
Fulham Sub District:
South Hammersmith Enumeration District:
20 Parish:
Hammersmith

Address:
56 Perrers Road Hammersmith W County:
London

Mother born Bristol?

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 19 Jun 2010 22:10

Wonder if this is Charles W. R. Moon?

MOON, Ellen Jane Head Widow F 47 1864 Maternity Nurse Newbury Berks VIEW
MOON, Charles William Robert Son Single M 27 1884 Houseporter Aldershot VIEW
MOON, Ernest James Son Single M 24 1887 Asst Lodnon VIEW
MOON, Annie Pauline Jane Daughter Single F 21 1890 Housekeeper London VIEW
MOON, Edward Chatfield Son Single M 19 1892 Draughtman Architect Pupil London VIEW
MOON, Winifred Kate Daughter F 10 1901 School London VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
687 Reference:
RG14PN687 RG78PN24 RD9 SD2 ED4 SN236

Registration District:
St Pancras Sub District:
South St Pancras Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
St Pancras

Address:
42 Howland ST County:
London

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 19 Jun 2010 22:06

The Burchett family appear to have had two children. Likely marriage for the elder, several possibles for the younger. But maybe we shouldn't be going down that route yet. Graham, I'll pm the details of you need them.

The Shepherd family is less easy. No children immediately following marriage but there was the tiny hiccup of a war at the time. I can't see a likely death of Ernest Leslie on the CWGC, and possible children born 1946 and later.

I wonder why Graham's dad went to Somerset - maybe one of the Rose Eleanors has some connection, so off to look. That said (Jax, take note!) in 1910 my hubby's great grandmother took in a baby born 150 miles away when she was - hang on - 55, and a widow, and the lad never looked back.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 19 Jun 2010 21:46

I think the 1919 Rose's mother's name is recorded/transcribed incorrectly: Tunley, not Tanley.

Marriages Jun 1915
Moon Charles W R Tunley Fulham 1a 733
Tunley Annie F Moon Fulham 1a 733

Other children:

Births Sep 1916
Moon Marjorie A Tunley Hammersmith 1a 380
Births Sep 1920
Moon Edgar R Tunley Hammersmith 1a 478

Both of them married in Hammersmith as did that Rose.

jax

jax Report 19 Jun 2010 21:39

see 20.58 some old lady

jax

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 19 Jun 2010 21:38

Graham thinks the woman who reared his dad was someone he was placed with, it seems. But it might well be worth investigating a possible connection.

The household of the older REMoon in 1911 at 187 Guiness, for info:

MOON ELIZABETH 1881 30 St Olave (Bermondsey) London
MOON JAMES WILLIAM 1882 29
MOON ELLENA 1905 6
MOON WILLIAM 1910 1

as it can be useful to have other names e.g. to search trees for.

edit - likely further births to that couple:

Births Jun 1914
MOON James W Williams St.Olave 1d 359
Births Mar 1917
Moon Elizabeth Williams St.Olave 1d 303

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 19 Jun 2010 21:35

Hi Graham

It was Michael who thought he was confused, but in fact it turned out to be me. Yes, Michael, I agree the marriage cert might throw something up, and is worth a go, but I was under the impression that Graham's dad didn't know anything about his mother or her family.

Graham has sussed out the marriages of the two ladies, I got them the wrong way round.

Address:St Pancras Hospital
4 St Pancras Way,
London,
Greater London,
NW1 0PETel:020 3317 3500Fax:020 3317 3170Email:[email protected]

I have no idea if you would be entitled to any records they have, but try emailing and see what they say.

You didn't answer my question as to who brought your dad up?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 19 Jun 2010 21:34

Someone has the 1919 Rose in their tree here at GR. It's a delicate kind of question to ask, but you can always just try asking whether their Rose is the daughter of Charles, married to Ernest, as you think she is in your tree and would they mind telling you their relationship to her.

Mike *

Mike * Report 19 Jun 2010 21:34

The hospital records should show her date of birth.

Graham

Graham Report 19 Jun 2010 21:34

Suzi Wong.
James Albert moon was born at 4 kings road, ( st pancreas hospital). On the b.c the mothers address is difficult to read,
43 ????? road camberwell) Any advice on searching electoral registers registers appreaciated as i've never done that before.
Manythanks
graham

Suzi-Wong

Suzi-Wong Report 19 Jun 2010 21:29

I'm not sure the hospital would be able to give any more info if the mother didn't want to give it at the time.

Was James Albert baptised? Sometimes there are clues there.

Suzanne