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Hello Fanny
Sorry I haven't replied, but haven't been on site.
Thanks for the information about quartermasters.
Could you tell me what site to find the information, as I not sure where it would be.

You also could have a quartermaster in the Navy..going by this census anyway.

1861
County:
Royal Navy at Sea and in ports abroad


WILLIAMS, Thomas Single M 31 1830 Quartermaster
Plymouth
Devonshire

Have tried looking at Aldershot, maybe I was looking in the wrong area. I'll try National archives may find something there.

Quartermaster is a military term (responsible for food, clothing and equipment)..........hence my suggestion that you check military births - especially as Aldershot is a Garrison town.

The name Sinclair suggests a Scottish connection somewhere along the line..........

I have found nothing of any use ,sorry.

Sorry if I've confused you it was in the cemetery register book, they were down as his parents.

Albert Harry is used on his childrens birth certificates so I dont know which one is right. It's a name that that people seemed to change often.

Than you Flick,I was about to say that...:)

Veronica.
It is much easier to try and help if the info is in front of us to be looked at for reference.

So his name was Henry on death and Harry on marriage.
Thank you Flick for adding the death.

Unusual to have parents names on death cert in England

It is right I have the death certificate

Albert died in Rotherham Yorks, his parents names Thomas David and Jenny Williams. Thomas was a quartermaster but what sort I don't know. I also don't know if there was anymore children. I'll keep on looking.

The additional info about Albert is for the benefit of others trying to help you..............

Deaths Jun 1907 (>99%)
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WILLIAMS Albert Henry 49 Rotherham 9c 410

Thank you for the information which I have. Albert age is a mystery because he was 32 a widower when he married Olive. When he died in 1907 his age was 49 which means he could have been born around 1858. Also I don't know if he had any siblings.
Still trying to find out where his parent Thomas and Jenny were born and died.

Hi once again thanks, but I have the all the information on Albert as Harry Sinclair is my grandfather. Its getting past him and onto Thomas and wife Jenny.

Hi once again thanks, I have all the information on Albert as Harry Sinclair was my grandfather. Its getting past Albert and onto Thomas.

Thanks I will try there.

1911 census - household transcription
Person: WILLIAMS, Olive
Address: 30 Broad Street Parkgate Near Rotherham

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PIKE, William Henry Head Married M 41 1870 Gass Worker Labourer Stockton on Tees Durham VIEW
WILLIAMS, Olive Servant Widow F 41 1870 House Keeper Goole Yorks VIEW
WILLIAMS, Harry Sinclair Boarder Single M 17 1894 Pony Lad Driver Pit Rotherham Yorks VIEW
WILLIAMS, Frank Sinclair Boarder M 15 1896 Pony Lad Driver Pit Rotherham Yorks VIEW
WILLIAMS, George Boarder M 13 1898 School Boy Sheffield Yorks VIEW
WILLIAMS, Johnathan Boarder M 8 1903 School Boy Rotherham Yorks VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
28098 Reference:
RG14PN28098 RG78PN1605 RD511 SD4 ED5 SN18

I thnk you're going to continue to have problems, Veronica - Albert seems to have had an over-active imagination

Where did he die?

Not in England/Wales, if parents' names were on death cert

Thats just what I feel, it is a mystery. Just wondering if you have any ideas where I could look for information. I am still learning the ropes.

1901 he is down as Harry and still born Aldershot 1842.

WILLIAMS, Harry Head Married M 59 1842 Groom (Not Domestic)
Aldershot

Hampshire
WILLIAMS, Olive Wife Married F 31 1870
Goole
Yorkshire