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Tansy

Tansy Report 26 Jun 2010 12:48

Hi, I'm trying to find my great x4 grandparents who I believe are from Leicestershire.

Thomas Hallford/Halford and Ann Hargraves got married in 1822 and had a son, George in 1841.

Any information about them or the birth/ death dates etc for Thomas and Ann would be greatly appreciated please and also any details of their other children if they had any.

Many thanks,
Tansy

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 26 Jun 2010 12:51

Where was George born ,to find a census

Dea

Dea Report 26 Jun 2010 12:52

Are you sure about your dates? - Not impossible but they don't look quite right.

What other info do you have please?

Dea x

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 26 Jun 2010 12:55


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THOMAS HALLFORD Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: ANN HARGRAVES Family
Marriage: 04 OCT 1822 Castle Donnington, Leicester, England



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Mike *

Mike * Report 26 Jun 2010 12:57

For reference.
I assume this is the couple's marriage you speak of


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THOMAS HALLFORD
Male

Marriages:
Spouse: ANN HARGRAVES Family
Marriage: 04 OCT 1822 Castle Donnington, Leicester, England


Mike *

Mike * Report 26 Jun 2010 13:01

Only birth for Leicestershire, but we don't know if they lived there after marriage.

Would need to check the certificate for parents.
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Births Sep 1838

HALFORD George - Nuneaton 16 364

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 26 Jun 2010 13:03

1851 This your GEORGE ?
Name: George Halford
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Gender: Male
Where born: Hemington, Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Hemington
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Shardlow
Sub-registration district: Castle Donnington
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Sophia White 49
Eunice White 84
Hannah Sophie White 8
Jno Palmer White 7
Sarah Ann Poyser 21
George Halford 13


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Astra

Astra Report 26 Jun 2010 13:10

Did he marry Priscilla


George Holford
[George Halford]
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Druscilla
Gender: Male
Where born: Castle Donnington, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: Islington St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 439
Household Members:
Name Age
George Holford 30>>>>>Captain
Druscilla Holford 29>>>>>Priscilla
Lucy Holford 3
James Holford 7
Richard Holford 4

Tansy

Tansy Report 26 Jun 2010 13:16

Thank you for all your replies.

As far as I'm aware, George was born in Castle Donnington, however I have not been able to find a birth certificate.

Yes, he married Priscilla Bishop in 1865.

As for the dates, I know it seems like a long time between Thomas and Ann's marriage and the birth of George. My only conlucion for that can be that they had more children before George?

Also, I don't know if this will help, but George was a boatman, as were many of his sons so I would imagine his father, Thomas also worked on the barges...

Many thanks,
Tansy

Astra

Astra Report 26 Jun 2010 13:20

Does his father's name come from George's marriage certificate?
It's just that I have been checking other trees on Ancestry and they all have his father as George.

Tansy

Tansy Report 26 Jun 2010 13:24

Hi Astra,

Well I actually got the information from a family group sheet sent by a correspondant. It just lists George's parents as Thomas Hallford and Ann Hargraves.

Unfortunately there is no other information about his parents...

Regards,
Tansy

Astra

Astra Report 26 Jun 2010 13:31

The problem is I can't find a marriage to Priscilla Bishop in 1865. Have you found details of their marriage.
If that is them in the 1871 which I posted above then that points to them marrying before 1865.
Which of their children is your next in line?

Astra

Astra Report 26 Jun 2010 13:37



This is them in 1881


George Hulford
[George Halford]
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Priscilla
Gender: Male
Where born: Castle Gathton, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: Paddington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: Barge Brothers Amberly Wharf 10357 Paddington
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Boatman
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 30a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George Hulford 40
Priscilla Hulford 39
James Hulford 19
Richard Hulford 15
Lucy Hulford 13
Henry Hulford 11
Stephen Hulford 8
Lydia Hulford 3

Dea

Dea Report 26 Jun 2010 13:39

Tansy,

I think you need to put this 'family group sheet' to one side at the moment and start from what you actually know!! (It may well be correct but at the moment it is just confusing!)

Who is the ancestor who you know is 'your's' ??

Dea x

Tansy

Tansy Report 26 Jun 2010 13:41

Ah, I see.

Umm I'm not quite sure about that then...

Yes, I have their first son listed as James Holford, born in 1863 so I supose that wouldn't quite fit... I guess I just assumed that maybe he was born out of wedlock and left it at that...

I will have another search to see if I can trace a marriage record.

Oh. Well, Violet May Hallford was my great grandmother, her father, Henry George Hallford was my great great grandfather and his father George Hallford was my great great great grandfather!
This is all definate and confirmed with my grandmother and other Genes Reunited members who we've found are relations.

Many thanks,
Tansy

Dea

Dea Report 26 Jun 2010 13:56

Have to 'do lunch' but will come back to it later.

Dea Xxx

Tansy

Tansy Report 26 Jun 2010 13:57

Hehe, okay. Thank you very much for all your help :)

Tansy x

Choccy

Choccy Report 26 Jun 2010 14:04

is this your Violet May with father Henry George ?

1911 census -

HALLFORD, Henry George Head Married M 44 1867 Baston By Trade North Ide Near Exeter VIEW
HALLFORD, Annie Wife F 43 1868 Duty At Home Usley VIEW
HALLFORD, Annie Daughter Single F 20 1891 Duty At Home Usley VIEW
HALLFORD, Henry George Son Single M 18 1893 Northolt Sales Works Usley VIEW
HALLFORD, Alice Daughter Single F 15 1896 Duty At Home Usley VIEW
HALLFORD, Nelly Daughter F 13 1898 School Usley VIEW
HALLFORD, Lizzie Elizabeth Daughter F 6 1905 School Usley VIEW
***HALLFORD, Violet May Daughter F 3 1908 Northolt VIEW
HALLFORD, Priscella Widow F 71 1840 Wantage VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6787 Reference:
RG14PN6787 RG78PN339 RD127 SD3 ED5 SN27

Registration District:
Uxbridge Sub District:
Hayes Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
Northolt

Address:
1 Brickfield Cottage West End County:
Middlesex



NOTE - Henry's place of birth is mis-transcribed. Exeter should read Uxbridge.

His occupation is Boatman.









Choccy

Choccy Report 26 Jun 2010 14:13

1881 -


HULFORD, George Head Married M 40 1841 Boatman
Castle Gathton
Leicestershire VIEW
HULFORD, Priscilla Wife Married F 39 1842
Wantage
Berkshire VIEW
HULFORD, James Son Single M 19 1862 Boatman
Paddington
Middlesex VIEW
HULFORD, Richard Son Single M 15 1866 Boatman
West Drayton
Middlesex VIEW
HULFORD, Lucy Daughter Single F 13 1868 Scholar
Paddington
Middlesex VIEW
****HULFORD, Henry Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar
West Drayton
Middlesex VIEW
HULFORD, Stephen Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar
West Drayton
Middlesex VIEW
HULFORD, Lydia Daughter Single F 3 1878 Scholar
West Drayton
Middlesex VIEW

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
11 Folio:
102 Page:
46

Registration District:
Kensington Sub District:
St Mary Paddington Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Paddington Municipal Borough:
Address:
357, Barge Brothers Amberly Wharf 1, Paddington, Paddington County:
Middlesex


Tansy

Tansy Report 26 Jun 2010 14:18

Hiya,

Yep that's them! :)

Many thanks,
Tansy