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meg BINGO someone related to albert just got in touch through genes so i might get a bit futher thanks zena

meg no wonder we couldnt find albert he was born a Norman he was born dec 1889 and died 1958.

Norman Bird? Harold Norman? Can't find either.

albert edward norman 31 12 1889- 8 5 1958
parents john edward bird ellen norman married 1891

Marriages Jun 1891
Bird John Birmingham 6d 99
Norman Ellen Birmingham 6d 99

Births Mar 1890
Norman Albert Edward Birmingham 6d 194



1891 England Census
about Albert Norman
Name: Albert Norman
Age: 1 3/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Amy
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:


Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Amy Norman 51
Nellie Norman 22
John Norman 21
Alice Norman 18
James Norman 10
Albert Norman 1 3/12

You need the birth cert to be sure who his mother is.


Christine

That will be Alberts birth registered in Jan/Feb/Mar qtr 1890.

Ellen must have been Nellie I think.


1881
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
James NORMAN Head M Male 40 Bilston, Stafford, England Metal Roller
Amey NORMAN Wife M Female 41 Birmingham, Warwick, England Wife Of Roller
May ROBERTS Widow U Female 80 ((Birmingham)), Worcester, England Washerwoman
Hellan NORMAN Daur U Female 13 ((Birmingham)), Worcester, England Scholar
John NORMAN Son U Male 11 ((Birmingham)), Worcester, England Scholar
Alice NORMAN Daur Female 9 ((Birmingham)), Worcester, England Scholar
James NORMAN Son Male 8 ((Birmingham)), Worcester, England Scholar

Source Information:
Dwelling 20 Bartletts Buldgs Key Hill
Census Place Birmingham, Warwick, England
Family History Library Film 1341718
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3004 / 82
Page Number 22

This is from Familysearch, Ancestry has James and Amy together and then May Roberts and the children seperate, children are listed as May's children.

Christine

thanks christine i'll follow this up

Well, where did I drag Harold from? A Senior Moment, methinks.

Ellen and Nellie are interchangeable back then. My son-in-law's sister is an Ellen and the family call her Nellie when they want to annoy her!

Seems the right lot to me.

Thanks for posting the details Christine.