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Alyson
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23 Sep 2010 04:04 |
Found ou a little new info
Looking for Luton, Beds census or similar : Percy Waller (circa b1885) married (?) Annie Olney - had many children. Believed to be in hat industry.
Also any info for: William Brown b.ca 1834, Great Missenden, Bucks,
Thanks in advance. Aly, NY
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Alyson
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29 Jun 2010 07:57 |
This is all really fantastic!! Many thanks to you both for your help.
Aly, NY
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29 Jun 2010 07:41 |
There is a birth of an Emma Louisa in Luton that would tie in well
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1869 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BROWN Emma Louisa Luton 3b 449
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Alyson
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29 Jun 2010 07:36 |
I will work to get the MC of Robert & Emma/Emily. ?? I am inclined to believe that she may have been Emma Louise, as I know one of Herbert/Ediths grand-daughters is Louise, & my sisters middle name is also Louise.
The Adelaide Street address may have been where the hat factory / shop was, so it could be possible that they lived above or adjacent to their businness?? the 1881 & 1901 census, would indicate that Emma was 17 when she married Robert & that perhaps she and husband Robert Waller assumed responsibility of the Adelaide Street location from her father?? I suppose all this was very possible 100+ years ago!!??!!?!
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SylviaInCanada
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29 Jun 2010 07:22 |
Posible
Name: Herbert R Waller Spouse Surname: Meachem Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1920 Registration district: Luton Registration county (inferred): Bedfordshire Volume Number: 3b Page Number: 1199 Find Spouse: Find Spouse
Name: Edith J Meachem Spouse Surname: Waller Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1920 Registration district: Luton Registration county (inferred): Bedfordshire Volume Number: 3b Page Number: 1199 Find Spouse: Find Spouse
Births Sep 1924 (>99%) Waller John R Mechem Luton 3b 593
Births Mar 1931 (>99%) Waller William D Mechem Luton 3b 484
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SylviaInCanada
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29 Jun 2010 07:16 |
The only marriage that shows up is the one that K found ........ Robert Waller and Emily Brown
Marriages Mar 1886 (>99%) BROWN Emily Luton 3b 573 Waller Robert Luton 3b 573
I wonder if the vicar misheard Emma L as Emily ???????????????????
the only way to tell would be to get the certificate!!!
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29 Jun 2010 07:12 |
I note that thee is aJulia Brown age 40 on the 1901 Census, indicated as Sister, adn Straw Hat Manufacturer. Robert's wife is Emma L, and if Julia is HER sister ...................
I wonder if this is Emma L Brown as a child???
The address is the same as on the 1901 Census
1881 Census
Name: Emma L. Brown Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1869 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Emma Gender: Female Where born: Luton, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: Luton County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Street Address: 37 Adelaide Street
Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Luton Sub-registration district: Luton
William Brown 47 b.ca 1834, Great Missenden, Buckinghamshire, Manufacture Emma Brown 44 b.ca 1837, Redbourn, Hertfordshire Lizze Brown 22 Julia Brown 20 <<<<<<<<<<<< William H.T. Brown 17 Emma L. Brown 12 Herbert E. Brown 9 Amelia Brown 6 Gertrude E. Brown 4 Edith F. Brown 1
In 1871, William Brown, the father, is a Starw Hat Blocker
BUT I cannot find a marriage between Robert Waller and Emma L Brown!!
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Alyson
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29 Jun 2010 07:08 |
This is all great stuff thanks... Now I know Herbert married Edith __?, and they had x2 sons, John & Jack?? Herbert & Edith lived in later years, in Barton-le-Clay (near Luton). Herbert lived until @ 90 years old I think. One of the other brothers had a wife named Florence (in Luton) can anyone help with this??
Aly, NY
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29 Jun 2010 06:08 |
There is a birth of a potential sibling in 1911 who could have been the Jack you refered to
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page Births Dec 1911 (>99%) Waller Jack F Brown Luton 3b 678
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Alyson
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29 Jun 2010 06:04 |
This is definitely the family - they owned several hat factories in Luton. I don't believe I ever heard mention of the parents Robert & Emma Louise...thanks
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29 Jun 2010 06:02 |
Possible parents marriage
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1886 (>99%) BROWN Emily Luton 3b 573 Waller Robert Luton 3b 573
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29 Jun 2010 05:58 |
1901 Census
Name: Robert Waller Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Emma L Gender: Male Where born: Luton, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: Luton Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour Town: Luton County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Registration district: Luton Sub-registration district: Luton
Robert Waller 35 Straw Hat Manufacturer, Employer Emma L Waller 32 Percy Waller 15 Victor Waller 12 William Waller 8 Herbert Waller 2 Julia Brown 40 Sister Rose Chapman 19 Domestic Servant
Address:- 37 Adelaide Street
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29 Jun 2010 05:54 |
His marriage cert would confirm his father's name and you really need this to be sure if you haven't already got it, but I would think it likely that the 1911 census details below was is family. It always helps when middle names are used in the census
Name: Robert B Waller Spouse Surname: Mccormick Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1931 Registration district: Luton Registration county (inferred): Bedfordshire Volume Number: 3b Page Number: 1108
The parents are listed as having 5 children and none had died 1911 census - household transcription Person: WALLER, Robert Bruce Address: 54 Reginald St Luton Bedfordshire WALLER, Robert Head Married M 46 1865 Straw Hat Manufacturer Luton VIEW WALLER, Emma Louisa Wife Married 24 years F 42 1869 Luton VIEW WALLER, Victor Son Single M 22 1889 Block Maker Straw Hat Luton VIEW WALLER, William Ewart Son Single M 18 1893 Warehouseman Straw Hat Luton VIEW WALLER, Herbert Robert Son M 12 1899 Scholar Luton VIEW WALLER, Robert Bruce Son M 3 1908 Luton VIEW BAILEY, Mabel Single F 17 1894 Servant Luton VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 9009 Reference: RG14PN9009 RG78PN479 RD178 SD2 ED16 SN196 Registration District: Luton Sub District: Luton Enumeration District: 16 Parish: Luton Address: 54 Reginald St Luton Bedfordshire County: Bedfordshire
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SylviaInCanada
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29 Jun 2010 05:49 |
using the free search on the 1911 census site:-
HOUSEHOLD WALLER ROBERT BRUCE M 1908 3 Luton Bedfordshire
HOUSEHOLD WALLER EMMA LOUISA F 1869 42 Luton Bedfordshire HOUSEHOLD WALLER HERBERT ROBERT M 1899 12 Luton Bedfordshire HOUSEHOLD WALLER ROBERT M 1865 46 Luton Bedfordshire HOUSEHOLD WALLER VICTOR M 1889 22 Luton Bedfordshire HOUSEHOLD WALLER WILLIAM EWART M 1893 18 Luton Bedfordshire
someone with a subscription may be able to give you mroe information
sylvia
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29 Jun 2010 05:47 |
And there is a corresponding birth in Luton which would give both parents - This was from FreeBMD which is free to search
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Mar 1908 (>99%) Waller Robert Bruce Luton 3b 401
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29 Jun 2010 05:44 |
I would think this is Robert's death which gives him as born approx 1908
Name: Robert B Waller Death Registration Month/Year: 1963 Age at death (estimated): 55 Registration district: Luton Inferred County: Bedfordshire Volume: 4a Page: 147
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Alyson
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29 Jun 2010 05:21 |
Would appreciate help 'organizing' Waller branch. My grandfather Robert Waller b. early 1900's I think, died 1963 Luton. He married Margaret McCormick, had 4 children 2 pre-war, 2 post war. Robert was one of several children, some brothers names, Herbert, Percy, Jack? All in & around Luton. Would like to know all siblings & parent names.
Someone, I hope will have detailed Waller history, which I know is out there...but first things first.
Thanks all! Aly, NY
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