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Can any one help please. Joseph Canetti was born 1886 in Italy he married Clara Everlyn Clulow i 1908 Sheffield he died i think in war as the date was 1917 she was born sheffield 1890. they had a son also called Joseph Canetti born in sheffield 1911 he married Freda Cooke in sheffield june q 1932,on the free bmd he is also listed as been married to Lydia Augur married dec q also 1932 is this the same Joseph Canetti did he marry twice,please help thanks Janette.

Marriages Jun 1932

Canetti Joseph Cooke Sheffield 9c 994

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Marriages Dec 1932

Canetti Joseph Augur Sheffield 9c 1187 & 1502


Question being, which is yours?

did they have children tha you know of?

they look to still be together in the following years, so maybe two different blokes

Births Mar 1933

CANETTI Joseph Cooke Sheffield 9c 803

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Births Sep 1935

Canetti Freda Cooke Sheffield 9c 687
Canetti Joyce Cooke Sheffield 9c 687

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Births Mar 1937

Canetti Sheila Cooke Sheffield 9c 623

I only know that one Joseph and Lydia had daughter called Christina

Births Mar 1941
Canetti Christina A Angar Sheffield 9c 1175

dau of the other couple?

I think they are two different men

SADLY
Deaths Mar 1919
Canetti Clara 30 Sheffield 9c 927

EDIT
POOR CLARA was widowed in 1917



COOKE MARRIAGE ( SON'S ?)
Births Mar 1911
Cooke Freda Wortley 9c 366
The district Wortley is an alternative name for Wortley and it is in the county of West Riding of Yorkshire

SADLY THE CHILDREN LISTED
Deaths Sep 1935
Canetti Freda 0 Sheffield 9c 460
Canetti Joyce 0 Sheffield 9c 457

Births Dec 1904 (>99%)
CANETTI Joseph Sheffield 9c 539

Births Mar 1911 (>99%)
Canetti Joseph Sheffield 9c 552

Christine

Do you think the too Josephs might be cousins?

SADLY
Joseph Canetti age 79 1927 Sheffield Yorkshire West Riding
Joseph Canetti 1904 1976 Sheffield South Yorkshire
Joseph Canetti 1910 1982 Sheffield South Yorkshire


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Joseph Canetti
Estimated birth year: abt 1908
Year of Registration: 1908
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 0
District: Sheffield
County: South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 342

Z

From a free search in 1911 these are all living in Sheffield but possibly not all in the same household.

HOUSEHOLD CANETTI CHARLES WILLIAM M 1903 8 Sheffield Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD CANETTI CLARA F 1889 22 Sheffield Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD CANETTI DOMINIC M 1882 29 Sheffield Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD CANETTI DOMINIC M 1909 2 Sheffield Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD CANETTI JOSEPH M 1886 25 Sheffield Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD CANETTI JOSEPH M 1910 4 MONTHS Sheffield Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD CANETTI LAURA F 1909 2 Sheffield Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD CANETTI SARAH ANN F 1886 25 Sheffield Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD CANETTI JOSEPH M 1905 6 Sheffield Yorkshire West Riding

Christine

So they had twins that both died

Sadly the twins must have died not much time apart as the indexes numbers are so close

Z

Joseph Canetti
Birth: 1886 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Death: 8 May 1917 - France
Marriage: Abt Jun 1908 (Jun 1908) - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Spouse: Clara Evelyn Clulow


THERE IS A FAMILY TREE ON ANCESTRY above is from it

Joseph Canetti
Birth: 03.12.1910 (3 Dec 1910) - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Death: 30 Nov 1982 - Sheffield
Marriage: 11.06. 1932 (11 Jun 1932) - Sheffield


UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
Name: Joseph Canett
Birth Place: St. Vincent's, Sheffield
Death Date: 8 May 1917
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Sheffield
Rank: Private
Regiment: York and Lancaster Regiment
Battalion: 13th (Service) (1st Barnsley) Battalion
Number: 10658
Type of Casualty: Died of wounds
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre



Z

I think this must be the family you are looking for, still a free search.

HOUSEHOLD CANETTI JOSEPH M 1886 25 Sheffield Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD CANETTI JOSEPH M 1910 4 MONTHS Sheffield Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD CANETTI LAURA F 1909 2 Sheffield Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD CANETTI CLARA F 1889 22 Sheffield Yorkshire West Riding

Christine

His surname wrong & the mother in law's surname wrong
Hope they got in right on his grave


Casualty Details
Name: CANETT
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: York and Lancaster Regiment
Unit Text: 13th Bn.
Date of Death: 08/05/1917
Service No: 10658
Additional information: Son in Law of Mrs. A. N. Elalow, of 22, Cross Smithfield, off Allen St., Sheffield.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: III. K. 39.
Cemetery: DUISANS BRITISH CEMETERY, ETRUN



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so on the 1911 census joseph married to clara children joseph and laura do you think that the others dominic and sarah might be married and dominic and joseph might be children to them so dominic might be josephs brother?

Hi on Josephs note is mother in law was Mrs A.N. Elalow i have his mother inlaw as Annie Maria Vickers.

Clulow SURELY is his mother in law
Clara's mum ??

Marriages Jun 1908
CLULOW Clara Evelyn Sheffield 9c 983

Births Mar 1890
Clulow Clara Sheffield 9c 450

Marriages Sep 1882
Clulow William Sheffield 9c 674
VICKERS Annie Sheffield 9c 674

VICKERS is HER maiden name

SADLY

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
Name: Annie M Clulow
Death Registration Month/Year: 1938
Age at death (estimated): 75
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 356

Sorry about that i read the wrong people on my tree yes josephs inlaw was clulow see what you ment when you said hope it was spelt right on the head stone.claras father was called william.thanks again and sorry for the mix up

Thanks again for your help everyone