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Also when they say they have been married 34 years....take no notice they mean 25

jax

Don't you love fiction stated as fact, jax??

Guessing that someone was "x" age because he had a child in "y" year ... and then stating that birthdate as if there were some basis for it ... just doesn't work.

How had you tried to trace them, Maureen, and what are you looking for?

The marriage is quickly found at FreeBMD

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

as is Frederick's birth (no need for inaccurate "around" birthdates).

The parents' marriage certificate will give their fathers' names and their ages at marriage (which the censuses posted by jax provide).

You can look for their births at FreeBMD with that info as well, and also search for them with their parents in earlier censuses. If you don't have access to censuses, others can help with that. You should take a shot at finding their births at FreeBMD, though. You will eventually need their birth certificates to be certain of their parents' identities.

no wonder I could'nt find the marraige I was looking around 1877

Where did you get 1868 for Edwards dob?
jax

hi
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1886 (>99%)
BUDD Mary Jane Portsea 2b 686

HOPKINS Edward Portsea 2b 686

1911 census - household transcription
Person: HOPKINS, Mary Jane
Address: 41 Wiltshire St Southsea Portsmouth


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HOPKINS, Edward Head Married M 59 1852 Fish Fryer Shop Keeper Portsmouth Hants VIEW
HOPKINS, Mary Jane Wife Married
34 years F 52 1859 Portsmouth Hants VIEW
HOPKINS, Albert William Son Single M 25 1886 Engine Fitter Govt Dockyard Portsmouth Hants VIEW
MEREWOOD, Daisy Rosina Daughter Married F 23 1888 Portsmouth Hants VIEW
WEST, Bora Rosina Daughter Married F 21 1890 Portsmouth Hants VIEW

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7 children 1 died

Name: Frederick H Hopkins
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary J
Gender: Male
Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Portsmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Portsmouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Portsmouth
Sub-registration district: North End and Buckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
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Household schedule number: 100
Household Members: Name Age
Mary J Hopkins 42
Albert W Hopkins 15
Daisy R Hopkins 13
Dora R Hopkins 11
Frederick H Hopkins 9
Mary Ann Hoster 65


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1891

Name: Daisy Hopkins
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Mary J
Gender: Female
Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Portsmouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Hopkins 39
Mary J Hopkins 32
Harriett Hopkins 13
Edward Hopkins 8
Albert Hopkins 5
Daisy Hopkins 3
Dora Hopkins 1


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Am having no luck in tracing my great grandparents Edward Hopkins born around 1868 in Portsmouth, Hants and his wife Mary Jane (ne Budd)
My grandfather's name their son was named Frederick H born around 1891He had at least one brother whose name I don't know.

Would be most grateful for any help.