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Yes, RG -having looked closely at the image , Frances Ann Stockdale is grandaughter -the "g" is sqeezed in above "daur" so you are right and therefore since Frances Ann is married, she wont be found under Stockdale and not necessarily under Martin
However I have found a Frances A Brown b 1878 Clayton Yorks in 1891 in Ilkley daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth Brown and that Elizabeth Brown was born 1843 Walsall Staffs as was Elizabeth Martin on the 1901 census
So I wonder if after all Frances was the daughter of Elizabeth Brown and Elizabeth remarried to Martin before 1901
No time now to pursue (son to be delivered to airport) but will return to this tomorrow

I read it as Mrs. Hart was the daughter of Elizabeth and Thomas and mother of Frances - so making Frances, Elizabeth's granddaughter and Naomi Elizabeth's Great Granddaughter

So the 5 generations, starting with the most recent were
Mary Wall
Naomi Martin
Frances Martin
Mrs Charles Hart
Elizabeth Martin (mnn Unknown)

Possible births for Frances??

Births Dec 1877 (>99%)
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MARTIN Frances Ann Gateshead 10a 800

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Births Mar 1878 (>99%)
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MARTIN Frances Ann Doncaster 9c 701

My reading of it was that Frances Ann was daughter to Elizabeth and Naomi was her (Frances) daughter and thus grandaughter to Elizabeth

I found one Charles Hart in Oldham in 1911 but he is married to Annie Lydia as folls
Charles Hart 62 Excavator b Standon herts
Annie Lydia 49 (think it should be 59 if 1901 is right) b Glamorgan
Joseph 24 b Swinton Lancs
Thomas 19 b Lancs (place illegible)
James 17 b Oldham
Albert 15 b Oldham
William b Oldham
Maria Rebecca Dellow 30 married daur b Cheltenham
Norman Dellow 3 grandson b Oldham

There is an Annie Hart died Salford 1919 aged 67

Gillian, I wondered if Frances Ann was actually Elizabeth's granddaughter on that census, if she is the mother of Naomi.

I can't see Frances on an earlier census or Elizabeth either for that matter!

In the 1901 census posted above where Frances is visiting Elizabeth Martin , her mother (who is widowed) the actual image shows a family called Hart living next door. The head is William J (not F) Hart b 1871 Sherbourne Gloucester according to the 1891 census when he is apprentice to a tailor in Ilkley called Welden.
WJH is obviously too young to have married Elizabeth but I wondered if a relative might be a candidate
However, WJH was the son of John (1842 Sherborne) and Elizabeth but he did have a brother Charles Edward Hart b1850 Sherborne
Unfortunately Charles Edward is married to Martha and living in Lambeth in 1901 and I havent been able to find a marriage for him later but someone else may be cleverer

There are only 2 Charles Harts in Oldham in 1911, have you looked at them on the census?

In 1911 Naomi has the name Stockdale

HOUSEHOLD STOCKDALE FRANCES F 1878 33 Skipton Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD STOCKDALE CHARLES M 1872 39 Skipton Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD STOCKDALE NAOMI F 1895 16 Skipton Yorkshire West Riding

Births Dec 1894 (>99%)
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Martin Naomi Wharfedale 9a 154

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%)
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Martin Frances Ann Wharfedale 9a 215
Noble Elizabeth Wharfedale 9a 215
Skelton Isiah Scoresby Wharfedale 9a 215
Stockdale Charles Wharfedale 9a 215


1901??

Name: Frances Stockdale
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Charles
Gender: Female
Where born: Ilkley, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Brierfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Brierfield St Luke
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Burnley
Sub-registration district: Nelson
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 114
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Stockdale 29
Frances Stockdale 23


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3884; Folio: 56; Page: 20.

I wonder if Frances is on the 1901 twice as this one seems to be the same person visiting her mother??

Name: Frances Ann Stockdale
[Frances Ann Martin]
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Claton, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Ilkley
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints and St Margaret
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wharfedale
Sub-registration district: Ilkley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 85
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Martin 59
Frances Ann Stockdale 23 Daughter
Naomi Martin 6 G G daughter???
Joseph Wookey 58
John Branon 31
Mack Manch 44
Eliza Bell 65
Thomas Hampson 33

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4066; Folio: 34; Page: 15

Mrs Charles Hart Was My gr gr grand mother. AllI know about her is that She was the Eldest daughter of Elizabeth and Thomas Martin1842 and the mother of Francis Stockdale nee Martin. I have seen a newspaper cutting dated around 1919-1920 Regarding a 5 generation Photo. The baby Mary Wall(my mum) Her mother Naomi Wall nee Martin, her mother Francis Stockdale nee Martin, her mother Mrs Charles Hart residing in Oldham, eldest daughter of Elizabeth and Thomas Martin. All this was from the Ilkley Gazette. Can any of you Marvellous People help me find Info on the Hart family and any of her siblings. I know Ive asked about Elizabeth before, but I hadn't this info' before. Please I hope you can help.