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HI

do you have your mother's birth certificate? if not it would be worth getting it. maybe her father's name is mentioned.

was her birth registered as Whitehead?
if her father was paying money for her up keep doesn't her foster family know his name or was the money given anonimously?

does anyone know the name of the firm your grandmother Edith worked for?

do you think this Supper guy is the father or just the person Edith shared a house with?

Hi Lesley -- none of us here actually *has* information. We just have access to sources where information can be found, like FreeBMD (free to anyone), Ancestry (by subscription), etc.

If you are wanting to find information about this Mr Supper, you're going to have to give his full name! He is undoubtedly deceased now. Is his name not on the ER?

You're also wanting info about Edith Whitehead? Do you know (e.g. from your mum's birth certificate) whether Edith had a middle name, or what her age was?

It's not at all an uncommon name, but almost exclusively in Lancashire and Yorkshire. Given the location, there are two possible marriages I see in the London area shortly after 1933:

Name: Edith F Whitehead
Spouse: John P Jones
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1934
Registration district: Hammersmith
Registration county (inferred): London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 853

Name: Edith M Whitehead
Spouse: Ernest S Ball
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1934
Registration district: Fulham
Registration county (inferred): London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 601

Again, they are undoubtedly deceased, but if we were to go forward to look for their children, that info would have to be sent to you privately as people born after 1935 are very possibly still living.

The marriage certificate that matched your Edith (by age/middle name, hopefully) would give you her father's name as well.


For Mr Supper, there are these three possible deaths in the London area after 1949 (when your mum was 16) for someone who might be the right age:

Name: Henry H Supper
Death Registration Month/Year: 1967
Age at death (estimated): 75
Registration district: Waltham Forest
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5e
Page: 462

Name: Charles Supper
Death Registration Month/Year: 1950
Age at death (estimated): 61
Registration district: Willesden
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5f
Page: 265

Name: Henry Supper
Birth Date: 12 Jan 1889
Death Registration Month/Year: 1972
Registration district: Hampstead
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5b
Page: 1649

That last one married in 1919 and/or 1924, I would guess; I don't see marriages for the others. I also see a Mr Supper who married a divorced woman in 1953 in the London area, who would therefore have been an older person as well; I see no death for him so won't put the details here.


All would have been in their 40s-ish when your mother was born.

Dear Tootfruity
Many thanks for you help
Lelsey

Dear Jan
I am very greatfull for your help

Best Regard
Lesley

Dear Janey
My Grandmother live in the Grove 1933 according to the electral roll witha a man called Mr Supper. Edith was a short hand typist who had an affair with her Manager of the firm who was marrried.
Edith had my mother in Kensignton out of wedlock, We know that my Grandfather was Jewish and he was kind to pay for my mother untill she was 16.


Edith did not want my mother so a Foster family were found. Mrs Hillman took my mother in and there she stayed untill she go married 1954

I understand from Joan Hillman that Edith was marrid very very soon after.
can you please give me any information your can.

Lesley

Dear Carol
My Grandmother live in the Grove 1933 witha a man called Mr Supper. Edith was a short hand typist who had an affair with her Manager of the firm. She had my mother out of wedlock, We know that my Grandfather is Jewish. can you please give me any information your can.

Lesley

Hi Lesley, not sure if this is any help but I live close to the Grove in W 6 it is known as Hammersmith Grove unless thier is another Grove but I have lived in the area for 62 years.

not much infomation but may help along the line.

Good luck

Carol

And then maybe if you gave us the full name and other details (like when they lived there), we could help figure out who it was, if that's what you'd like to do. ;)

Keep in mind that it depends what you are reading -- Supper could well be a mistranscription for Tupper, in particular.

For example, a Gertrude Supper married in Hammersmith in 1936, but there's no Gertrude Supper birth to match. The groom was Samuel Hirshman; possibly they were immigrants, although ethnicity/religion is no definite indication of that. Since there was a Hirshman-Supper birth, it could be the case here though.

There are very few Supper births at FreeBMD -- do take a look there for your person:

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

At least half have ethnically Jewish / Eastern European given names or mother's surnames.

Yes there is a surname Supper

On 1911 census there are 24 with that surname

A quick search of people's family trees on here reveals 28 matches for that surname - so yes!
Jan

Can any one help I am tring to contact any one who would know If there is such a name as Supper, This person lived in 182A the Grove London W.6. with a Mr Evan David Lewis, and Edith Whitehead.
Best Regards
Lesley