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Think you could be on to something Mel - Forster Leighton married Agnes per the 1911.

I think you will find that the 1911 census William has put Mr. William Rawe.

Thinking about the marriage I am pretty sure the one I posted above is the right one but only by buying it will you actually find out.

I do honestly think Edith Miller to William Raine is the correct one.

Just look at the spellings from the typing of both the names and you could see how easily it would be to read the surname as Raine.

What is any one elses thought please?

Thanks MarieCeleste

Ho ho ho I have just noticed that on the 1911 census poor Olive is down as Clive!!!! :-S :-S :-S

I agree Mel, would be well worth Sandy getting a copy of that cert.

Also, I can't see a couple actually called RAINE in the Durham area on the 1911 that would correspond to that marriage.

Think this could be Edith with her parents.

Note the mother's name Eleanor (Nellie) and her sister Isabella. Also I think there was a Isabella in Wiliam's family pos his mother.

1891 England Census
about Edith Meller
Name: Edith Meller
[Edith Miller]
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Meller
Mother's name: Eleanor Meller
Gender: Female
Where born: South Shields, Durham, England

Civil parish: Westoe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Hilda
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:22 Selbourne St.

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4155
Folio: 94
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
William Meller 37 Born Scotland Coachman Domestic
Eleanor Meller 33
Isabella Meller 10
Elizabeth A Meller 8
James W Meller 5
Gertrude E Meller 3
Edith Meller 1

I have just recived another e-mail which saya Edith had a sister called Bella no surname and that she lived at Blackhall Rocks

Also says that Olive sister Bella married a David or Richard Lamb about 1932

Thank you Sandy

Sandy, Bella would most likely be the Isabella that is on the 1911 that I posted on page 1.

She married as Isabella:

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1932
Lamb Richard A Rawe Chester-le-S 10a 1099
Rawe Isabella Lamb Chester le Street. 10a 1099

Found William Rawe's baptism:

England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

name: William Rawe
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 08 Nov 1889
baptism/christening place: Bishop Auckland Circuit, Durham, England
birth date: 28 Sep 1889
father's name: James Rawe
mother's name: Isabella Rawe
indexing project (batch) number: C00833-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1894229
reference number: cn176

Citing this Record
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NJH7-LVM

See I said so it all adds up.

Mel - you are such a clever clogs :-) :-) :-) ;-)

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Isabella Rawe
Name: Isabella Rawe
Spouse Surname: Lamb
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1932
Registration district: Chester-le-Street
Inferred County: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 1099

Richard A Lamb Rawe Jul-Aug-Sep 1932 Chester-le-Street Durham

Not always but I must be today... :-D

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about William Miller
Name: William Miller
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1880
Registration district: South Shields
Inferred County: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 870



>>>>>Eleanor Bell Apr-May-Jun 1880 South Shields Durham

Johnine Brodie Apr-May-Jun 1880 South Shields Durham

>>>>William Miller Apr-May-Jun 1880 South Shields Durham

John Morgan Apr-May-Jun 1880 South Shields Durham

Will be back in a few mins with William's service records .....

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: William Rawe
Residence: Heppels Cottages Newfield, Newcastle-on-Tyne
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 1860??
Regiment Name: (Res) Northumbrian Field Ambulance RAMC
Number of images: 37

Unfortunately, the page where it gives details of marriage and children is incomplete. It does mention his wife Edith and that he had been employed at Pelton colliery so the right chap.

1891 England Census
about William Rawe
Name: William Rawe
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Rawe
Mother's name: Isabella Rawe
Gender: Male
Where born: Bishop Auckland, Durham, England

Civil parish: Bishop Auckland
Ecclesiastical parish: Auckland St Andrews
Town: Bishop Auckland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4067
Folio: 65
Page Number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
James Rawe 30
Isabella Rawe 28
Alice Rawe 8
Alfred Rawe 4
William Rawe 1

If my grandmother surname is Miller maybe that was her father surname

I other thing that just come to me When i was a child the family story was that my mother family own Lambs crisps and that it was sold to Smiths crisps

Thank you Sandy

ps there was a story that we own a undertakers too

Sandy - your grandmother's surname was Miller because that was her mother's surname. Illegitimate children are registered with their mother's surname. It's quite possible that William Rawe was her father as he married her mother soon after Olive's birth but you'll probably not be able to prove that.

You could order a copy of that 1909 birth that we've already posted.

I think the marriage cert too as I am sure it is the right one.

Mel

From a tree on Ancestry.

William Rawe
Birth Oct 1889 in Bishop Auckland, Durham

Death 1956 in Durham


Marriage Information
Date
2 OCT 1909
Location
Pelton Parish Church, Durham
to Edith Miller