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Olive Miller born about 1910

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mgnv

mgnv Report 8 Nov 2012 05:11

Again using http://www.northeastbmd.org.uk/
William MILLER
Spouse: Eleanor BELL
Register: R 18 Entry: 126
Date: 23/05/1880
Using http://www.southtyneside.info/article/10778/Marriage-indexes
Register R must be the registrar's own register, so a rego office or non-conformist marr that the registrar had to attend pre-1898.

Sandra

Sandra Report 7 Nov 2012 17:42

Hi Thank you for the information. Sorry it has taken a few days to peply but grndsons have been ill. Thank you Sandy

mgnv

mgnv Report 30 Oct 2012 21:24

Sandra - if you look up any Chester-le-Street BMD - e.g.:
Marriages Mar 1934 (>99%)
Metcalfe John M Miller Chester-le-S. 10a 911
Miller Olive Metcalf Chester-le-S. 10a 911

and then click on the "Chester-le-S." link, then the more info "here" link, you'll get a list of all the villages, etc., that were in Chester-le-Street RD.
The list includes Birtley.

Here's some lookups using the local rego office index, rather than the GRO index, via:
http://www.northeastbmd.org.uk/

Looks like there was a mistranscription - either in compiling the GRO index, or in making the copy for the GRO, as the local index says:
Details of your chosen Marriage certificate (including spouse) are as follows:
Surname Forename(s) Year District
RAWE William 1909 Durham Northern
MILLER Edith 1909 Durham Northern
Register No. - Entry No. - District
DNCO3 - 390 - Durham Northern (1909)
[I think DNCO refers to Durham Northern - Holy Trinity Pelton -- NB Pelton was in Chester-le-Street RD]
The other couple on the GRO page was the preceeding marr:
Surname Forename(s) Year District
LEIGHTON Forster W 1909 Durham Northern
WOOD Agnes R 1909 Durham Northern
Register No. - Entry No. - District
DNCO3 - 389 - Durham Northern (1909)

The entry # was gotten from the postal application form.

Sandra

Sandra Report 30 Oct 2012 12:16

I have recived a post from another member and we are on the right track with William Miler,her nan and my nan were sister.

Also on the 1911 census is the following information

Willam Miller born 1854 at ABERLADY HADINGTON RESSIDENT

Eleanor Miller wife born 1852 at South Shields

James Miller born1886 son at south Shields

Gertrude E Miller born 1888 daughter at south shields

William Bell born 1830 father in law born at South Shields

The message that i recived confirm Eleanor surname as Bell

I have been looking for William birth place and i think is must be Aberfeldy Haddington

Thank you Sandy

Sandra

Sandra Report 22 Oct 2012 06:32

Thnk you i will let you know what the out come is Sandy

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Oct 2012 15:48

Sandy please let us know about the outcome. Thanks.

By the way you said one of the witnesses on Olive's marriage cert was an Eleanor Raive but it must have been her sister Eleanor Rawe. Not an easy name to read in the old fashioned writing!

Mel

Sandra

Sandra Report 21 Oct 2012 15:41

Thank you everyone for the information. I will have to send for some certs Thank you from Sandy

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Oct 2012 15:04

Olive's sister Edna's birth and her sister Eleanor Rawe

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Edna M Rawe
Name: Edna M Rawe
Mother's Maiden Surname: Miller ******************
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1920
Registration district: Easington
Inferred County: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 1156

She was Edna May Rawe. Died in 1981.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Eleanor Rawe
Name: Eleanor Rawe
Mother's Maiden Name: Miller
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1913
Registration district: Chester le Street
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 1137

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Oct 2012 14:55

From a tree on Ancestry.

William Rawe
Birth Oct 1889 in Bishop Auckland, Durham

Death 1956 in Durham


Marriage Information
Date
2 OCT 1909
Location
Pelton Parish Church, Durham
to Edith Miller

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Oct 2012 14:46

I think the marriage cert too as I am sure it is the right one.

Mel

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Oct 2012 14:41

Sandy - your grandmother's surname was Miller because that was her mother's surname. Illegitimate children are registered with their mother's surname. It's quite possible that William Rawe was her father as he married her mother soon after Olive's birth but you'll probably not be able to prove that.

You could order a copy of that 1909 birth that we've already posted.

Sandra

Sandra Report 21 Oct 2012 14:37

If my grandmother surname is Miller maybe that was her father surname

I other thing that just come to me When i was a child the family story was that my mother family own Lambs crisps and that it was sold to Smiths crisps

Thank you Sandy

ps there was a story that we own a undertakers too

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Oct 2012 14:35

1891 England Census
about William Rawe
Name: William Rawe
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Rawe
Mother's name: Isabella Rawe
Gender: Male
Where born: Bishop Auckland, Durham, England

Civil parish: Bishop Auckland
Ecclesiastical parish: Auckland St Andrews
Town: Bishop Auckland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4067
Folio: 65
Page Number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
James Rawe 30
Isabella Rawe 28
Alice Rawe 8
Alfred Rawe 4
William Rawe 1


MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Oct 2012 14:33

Will be back in a few mins with William's service records .....

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: William Rawe
Residence: Heppels Cottages Newfield, Newcastle-on-Tyne
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 1860??
Regiment Name: (Res) Northumbrian Field Ambulance RAMC
Number of images: 37

Unfortunately, the page where it gives details of marriage and children is incomplete. It does mention his wife Edith and that he had been employed at Pelton colliery so the right chap.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Oct 2012 14:31

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about William Miller
Name: William Miller
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1880
Registration district: South Shields
Inferred County: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 870



>>>>>Eleanor Bell Apr-May-Jun 1880 South Shields Durham

Johnine Brodie Apr-May-Jun 1880 South Shields Durham

>>>>William Miller Apr-May-Jun 1880 South Shields Durham

John Morgan Apr-May-Jun 1880 South Shields Durham

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Oct 2012 14:27

Not always but I must be today... :-D

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Oct 2012 14:26

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Isabella Rawe
Name: Isabella Rawe
Spouse Surname: Lamb
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1932
Registration district: Chester-le-Street
Inferred County: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 1099

Richard A Lamb Rawe Jul-Aug-Sep 1932 Chester-le-Street Durham

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Oct 2012 14:24

Mel - you are such a clever clogs :-) :-) :-) ;-)

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 21 Oct 2012 14:23

See I said so it all adds up.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Oct 2012 14:21

Found William Rawe's baptism:

England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

name: William Rawe
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 08 Nov 1889
baptism/christening place: Bishop Auckland Circuit, Durham, England
birth date: 28 Sep 1889
father's name: James Rawe
mother's name: Isabella Rawe
indexing project (batch) number: C00833-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1894229
reference number: cn176

Citing this Record
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NJH7-LVM