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hello dee
i just had a quick try at those 2 free sites you told me about and struggled a bit - i will have to practice on them - i bet they are good when you know what you are doing !!
thanks for the info on that lady but i don't have the time right now to sort myself out - and i hate to admit it that i'm a bit lost on all that copying & pasting
i was hoping to visit bolton myself - if i can't do it when my sister is here i'll have to organise it for when she goes home
thank you again - i really am very grateful for all your help
bye for now
irene

Hi Irene,

There is a lady going to Bolton Library next week and is kindly offering to do look ups there, so if you wanted anything in particular then maybe she could help and save you a few pennies?

Here's her url to the thread;

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1235867

Now you can copy and paste that into the top search bar and it will take you directly to her thread, or you could just delete the last 4 numbers and replace them with the last 4 numbers on the url I provided.

Dee x

Sorry Irene,

Just had a quick visit from my parents.

The marriage I found on family Search pilot for the other John Pollard and Martha's marriage was from Lancsopc....... both of these are free sites.


Dee x

hi dee
thanks for the info on husbandsman
you are right its not the right marriage - i thought i had it sussed
why can't i get the info like you can - do you have to subscribe to something else ?

bye for now
irene

Hi Irene,

A Husbandman is someone who; A tenant farmer who cultivated the land.


Doesn't look like Johns former marriage;


Groom's Name: John Pollard
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace: Of Sharples
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Betsy Darbishire
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace: Of Sharples
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 24 Aug 1851
Marriage Place: Bolton-Le-Moors, Lancashire, England
Groom's Father's Name: Nathaniel Pollard
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Thos. Darbishire
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00817-2
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1966657
Reference Number: p 165 n 330
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973


Need to end here cos i need to go to page 1.

be back shortly.


Dee x

hello dee
just bringing you up to date i now have john & eliza'a marriage cert her name came back as adkinson her father is william & a 'dresser' i checked up on the family you found for eliza and i can't find another that fits - i'm dizzy with the different spellings : also the 1855 marriage date you gave me was right & you also sent a list of marriages in 1851 for john pollard and when the cert came from 1855 he was a widow : so i've checked for a previous marriage based on your info and i think he was married to betsy darbishire : so far i haven't found any children of that marriage or betsy's death : the details you gave me for martha's marriage looks excellent as well : you have now left me with a lot of homework to check out. on martha's info 2 of the men were listed as " husbandsman " can you tell me what that means ? I won't have much time for the next 6 weeks or so to do any research as my sister arrives from australia in less than a week and she is with me the whole time [which is terrific] but we are hoping to have a holiday away from home and lots of trips[ til the money runs out anyway ] i want to jump back to another search on my redmonds now as they are giving me serious problems - so the first chance i get i will have to ask for help on genes as i am STUCK
back to pollards - a really big thank you for all your help and to you christine
best wishes to you both
bye for now
irene

Hi Irene,

Yes, one message would have been ok as usually people who have helped check back to the threads when they see a new message has been posted.

Thanks very much for being so polite.

Christine

hi christine
do you mean that i could just have put the one message on about the birth cert - and then said thanks to you and christine ? - instead of doing a message to each of you - would that have been ok ?
i was just trying to be polite - but it certainly would be quicker especially if there were 10 of you helping !!!
thanks for the tip
bye - irene

Hi Irene,

It's better to keep all the messages on the thread as then everyone can see them and you only need to add one set of details so easier for you.

Both Dee and myself saw the details of the birth cert.

Christine

hello dee
if i haven't already thanked you for this info - i am thanking you now - it seems a bit confusing doing the messages on here rather than the inbox & sent bit
thanks again
bye - irene

hello christine
thanks for the info about just using john pollards name for when i order the marriage certificate
bye for now
irene

hi dee
i've just sent you a message - thinking the one i sent yesterday was missing - and guess what - IT'S THERE for everyone to see
ooops
best wishes
irene

hello dee
i put some messages on here yesterday to you & christine in portugal about sarah jane's birth certificate coming back to me with the surname hodkinson whereas isabella's was hodgkinson - i've come back on the site today to have a look and i can't find yesterdays messages to you & christine - the other messages ive sent are on here to read - i don't know where they've gone but i don't want you to think i'm not replying or not grateful - you have given me a lot of help
from a confused irene -

Hi Irene,

I think this maybe Eliza's family, so maybe just to keep in mind???

1841 England Census about Mary Hodkinson
Name: Mary Hodkinson
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1796
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Bolton Le Moors
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Great Bolton East
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm Hodkinson 55 >> Occupation Cotton ??? dresser
Mary Hodkinson 45
Isaac Hodkinson 20
Mary Hodkinson 15
Wm Hodkinson 14
>>>>>>>>>>Eliza Hodkinson 10
Jane Hodkinson 5
Thomas Hodkinson 4



Dee x

Hi Irene,

You can order the cert just using one of the names. So you can use just John Pollard.

Christine

hello dee
somehow i missed you message about eliza's father - i need to try and find out more - i'm sure her mother is mary but i don't know anything about her dad : i did a little census research after one of your messages - i was looking at surname's adkinson, hodkinson & hodgkinson but i need to sit with the results and see if anything looks likely
thank you again
best wishes - irene

hello christine
just got sarah jane's birth certificate : surname hodkinson - so very close to my isabella's hodgkinson along with adkinson and anything else that sounds similar : i was so frustrated before but with the help of yourself and dee i feel like i can get a bit further now [not forgetting janet either]
thanks again for you help
bye for now
irene

hello dee
just to let you know how i've gone on - sent for a birth cert for another of john & eliza pollards children - my isabella was hodgkinson . The new one i sent for was for her sister sarah jane and the birth cert has come back hodkinson - so you were right adkinson, hodkinson or hodgkinson could be right - it may even be something else : anyway i'll try again now for the marriage cert of john & eliza - i don't know whether to leave her SURNAME'S off and just ask for eliza based on the marriage information you gave me but i feel more confident now that i will get a result and if william is his dad that will be great - I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH
bye for now
irene

Hi Irene,

I think Sarah Jane's birth certificate may show the mothers maiden name of Hodgkinson.

Have you traced Eliza back to find out her fathers name and occupation? If you have I think I would order the 1855 marriage and ask that they check the fathers details to confirm or rule out that marriage.



Dee x

hello christine
i was in a real rush to get out yesterday but i did send off for sarah jane's birth cert - so it will be interesting to see what mothers surname is on there
i'll let you know
bye for now
irene