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Myfanwy Thomas from Bleneau Festiniog was my grandmother,Not too sure when she was born ,perhaps early1900., She did marry and settled in Bala. (married name Jones). I am trying to find out if her mother was married twice. (dont know her name) this came from word of mouth in the family, Hoping someone can help. Thanking you in anticipation gwyneth

Start by looking on freebmd for Myfanwy's birth.......the cert will include all the relevant info about her mother

Do you know the names of her parents?

Im afraid I dont really have any more information about Myfanwy.

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Myfanwy Thomas
Name: Myfanwy Thomas
Spouse Surname: Jones
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1922
Registration district: Festiniog
Volume Number: 11b
Page Number: 762


Was her husband John M Jones?

Yes. thank you

The marriage certificate will give you her fathers name and then we can trace his marriage

The names Thomas and Jones are not easy as you can imagine. You will need that marriage certificate

Found one in Blaenau in 1911.........

1911 census - household transcription
Person: THOMAS, Myfanwy
Address: 7 New Tanymanod Terrace Bl Festiniog

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THOMAS, Peter Gwr Priod M 50 1861 Miner B Festiniog Merionethshire VIEW
THOMAS, Elizabeth Gwraig Priod F 39 1872 B Festiniog Merionethshire VIEW
THOMAS, John David Mab Sengl M 17 1894 Chwarelwr Slate Dresser B Festiniog Merionethshire VIEW
THOMAS, Kate W Merch F 8 1903 B Festiniog Merionethshire VIEW
THOMAS, Jane E Merch F 7 1904 B Festiniog Merionethshire VIEW
THOMAS, Myfanwy Merch F 5 1906 B Festiniog Merionethshire VIEW
THOMAS, Martha Merch F 3 1908 B Festiniog Merionethshire VIEW
THOMAS, Owen Mab M 1 1910 B Festiniog Merionethshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
34330 Reference:
RG14PN34330 RG78PN1983 RD628 SD2 ED3 SN341

Registration District:
Ffestiniog Sub District:
Ffestiniog Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Ffestiniog

Address:
7 New Tanymanod Terrace Bl Festiniog County:
Merionethshire

BUT.....you need some FACTS to cross-refer....................

Thank you for your help. I will get the certificate.Regards gwyneth

1901 Wales Census
about Margaret Thomas
Name: Margaret Thomas
[Myfanwy Thomas]
Age in 1901: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales

Civil parish: Festiniog
Ecclesiastical parish: Festiniog
County/Island: Merionethshire
Country: Wales


Registration district: Festiniog
Sub-registration district: Festiniog
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Household Members: Name Age
Owen Owens 58
Margaret Owens 56
G Owens 26
Owen Owens 21
Hugh Owens 14
Margaret Owens 24<<<Thomas!
Margaret Thomas 3<<<<<<<<< It does say Myfanwy on the record
Ellin A Thomas 5 months


Margaret Thomas
[Myfanwy Thomas]

Someone has made a correction to the name on Ancestry. Pauline Owen made the correction Nov 2009

How would I find out if Elizabeth (myfanwy's mother had been married twice?)not too sure where to look. (Ive only just started this family history, so am not too good on where to go)

At this point we dont know who her mother is. Flick has found one possible and I have found another...Margaret

Start with that marriage cert. You'll get her age too

Come back when you have recieved it and we can go from there

You can order online from the GRO

Thank you all so much, really appreciate it.
gwyneth

Births Dec 1900 (>99%)
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Thomas Ellen Ann Festiniog 11b 353


This looks like the birth of the Ellin that is on the 1901 census. Keep this info for later to refer back to

Again keep this for future ref. Possible birth before her parents married


Births Sep 1898 (>99%)
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OWENS Myfanwy Festiniog 11b 392

I had to post this again as it was getting a little mixed up with the birth

Marriages Dec 1898 (>99%)
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Evans Morris Morris Festiniog 11b 713
JONES Mary Festiniog 11b 713
Owens Maggie Festiniog 11b 713 <<<<<<<
Thomas John Festiniog 11b 713<<<<<<<<<<

1911 Census

HOUSEHOLD THOMAS MYFANWY F 1897 14 Dolgelley Merionethshire
HOUSEHOLD THOMAS MARGARET A F 1878 33 Dolgelley Merionethshire

No Ellen in the house, maybe this is her death


Deaths Jun 1909 (>99%)
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THOMAS Ellen Ann 10 Festiniog 11b 261

The info Ginny has posted is looking increasingly likely to be correct...............a 1922 marriage would be more feasible for someone born c1898, rather than 1906

Also, the family story about her mother marrying twice would be a way of explaining why her birth wasn't registered in the surname under which she married

Do you know when/where she died?

Thank you so much for all your help.

I had to chat to my brother in australia to see what information he had. Hence the delay. He belives Myfanwy was born in 1910. She was living in Bala, but actually died in Wrexham hospital early 1980's
thank you for everything
gwyneth

My brother has said that Myfanwy's mother was definatley Elizabeth and her husband was Peter.