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Thank you again
really really apreciate everything.
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Right then, so back to my trail!

Get the marriage certificate that I posted on the first page. If that is the right one then she cannot have been born as late as you think

Come back when you have it

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Myfanwy was married to a John morris Jones. so last posting would not be right.

I think it will be best if I get the certificate.I think I will find it easier that way and will be sure.
thank you and everyone so much for everything
regards
gwyneth

Youve not wasted our time!

What about this marriage

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Myfanwy Thomas
Name: Myfanwy Thomas
Spouse Surname: Jones
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1939
Registration district: Merioneth East
Registration county (inferred): Merionethshire
Volume Number: 11b
Page Number: 1329
Find Spouse: Walter M Jones


And a possible death?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Myfanwy Jones
Name: Myfanwy Jones
Birth Date: 7 Jan 1906
Death Registration Month/Year: 1980
Registration district: Penllyn
Inferred County: Merionethshire
Volume: 25
Page: 0601

I think it must of been the first posting is correct. There is so much information. It does take me a little while to sort it out.Im sorry if I have waited your time.
I really appreciate you helping me.
regards gwyneth

Back to Flicks trail



Births Mar 1906 (>99%)
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Thomas Myfanwy Festiniog 11b 365

You need the birth certificate to check this is her

So that marriage that you said was correct cant be. She would only be 12yrs old in 1922

My brother has said that Myfanwy's mother was definatley Elizabeth and her husband was Peter.

Thank you so much for all your help.

I had to chat to my brother in australia to see what information he had. Hence the delay. He belives Myfanwy was born in 1910. She was living in Bala, but actually died in Wrexham hospital early 1980's
thank you for everything
gwyneth

The info Ginny has posted is looking increasingly likely to be correct...............a 1922 marriage would be more feasible for someone born c1898, rather than 1906

Also, the family story about her mother marrying twice would be a way of explaining why her birth wasn't registered in the surname under which she married

Do you know when/where she died?

1911 Census

HOUSEHOLD THOMAS MYFANWY F 1897 14 Dolgelley Merionethshire
HOUSEHOLD THOMAS MARGARET A F 1878 33 Dolgelley Merionethshire

No Ellen in the house, maybe this is her death


Deaths Jun 1909 (>99%)
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THOMAS Ellen Ann 10 Festiniog 11b 261

I had to post this again as it was getting a little mixed up with the birth

Marriages Dec 1898 (>99%)
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Evans Morris Morris Festiniog 11b 713
JONES Mary Festiniog 11b 713
Owens Maggie Festiniog 11b 713 <<<<<<<
Thomas John Festiniog 11b 713<<<<<<<<<<

Again keep this for future ref. Possible birth before her parents married


Births Sep 1898 (>99%)
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OWENS Myfanwy Festiniog 11b 392

Births Dec 1900 (>99%)
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Thomas Ellen Ann Festiniog 11b 353


This looks like the birth of the Ellin that is on the 1901 census. Keep this info for later to refer back to

Thank you all so much, really appreciate it.
gwyneth

At this point we dont know who her mother is. Flick has found one possible and I have found another...Margaret

Start with that marriage cert. You'll get her age too

Come back when you have recieved it and we can go from there

You can order online from the GRO

How would I find out if Elizabeth (myfanwy's mother had been married twice?)not too sure where to look. (Ive only just started this family history, so am not too good on where to go)

1901 Wales Census
about Margaret Thomas
Name: Margaret Thomas
[Myfanwy Thomas]
Age in 1901: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales

Civil parish: Festiniog
Ecclesiastical parish: Festiniog
County/Island: Merionethshire
Country: Wales


Registration district: Festiniog
Sub-registration district: Festiniog
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Household Members: Name Age
Owen Owens 58
Margaret Owens 56
G Owens 26
Owen Owens 21
Hugh Owens 14
Margaret Owens 24<<<Thomas!
Margaret Thomas 3<<<<<<<<< It does say Myfanwy on the record
Ellin A Thomas 5 months


Margaret Thomas
[Myfanwy Thomas]

Someone has made a correction to the name on Ancestry. Pauline Owen made the correction Nov 2009

Thank you for your help. I will get the certificate.Regards gwyneth