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BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 10 Aug 2010 14:55

I forgot Ancestry had a "pay as go" on as well !!
Haven't found Pelham yet but wonder if this is his brother

Name: Howard Obbard
Port of Departure: London
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 24 Nov 1874
Vessel Name: Parramatta


BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 10 Aug 2010 14:41

Yes it looks as if it is the same family-

-I don't have full Ancestry to see when he went to Australia --maybe someone will have a look please :-)

Thank you
Barbara

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 10 Aug 2010 14:40

But he'd be on the emigration records wouldn't he?

I can only access the immigration records but someone could look ...

Between 1861 and 1874 - that'll confirm it then.

Jill

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 10 Aug 2010 14:32

That marriage -

Matilda Elizabeth Obbard
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Spouse Name: Samuel Frederick Langham
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Sep 1851
Parish: St Andrew Holborn
County: London
Borough: City of London
Father Name: Joseph Obbard
Spouse Father Name: Samuel Frederick Langham



Source Citation: Guildhall, St Andrew Holborn, Register of marriages, 1851 - 1853, P69/AND2/A/01/Ms 6672/17

BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 10 Aug 2010 14:32

Its a shame it doesn't give more info though ie Age etc.

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 10 Aug 2010 14:30

I think that has to be him Barbara - there can't be more than one Pelham Obbard ... well spotted.

Jill

BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 10 Aug 2010 14:29

Well maybe his sister marry a

Marriages Sep 1851 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Griffeths Martha W London 2 294
Groves James W London 2 294
Jaques Thomas W. London 2 294
>>>>Langham Samuel Frederick W London 2 294
>>>>Obbard Matilda Elizabeth W London 2 294
Perrin Thomas London W 2 294
Russell Sarah London W 2 294
Stuart Ann W London 2 294

BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 10 Aug 2010 14:25

Check this out !! Not sure but a maybe if his sister Matilda Elizabeth married a Mr Langham

Sorry cant cut and past the image


http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1904&iid=31874_221795-00011&fn=Pelham&ln=Obbard&st=r&ssrc=&pid=2378213

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 10 Aug 2010 14:18

Well, I've tried all sorts of different variations - including reversing his names - and beyond what's already been posted and his birth reg'n - zilch ...

He's a puzzle isn't he?

Jill

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 10 Aug 2010 14:02

Just for reference:

1851:
Name: Pelham Abbard
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Matilda
Gender: Male
Where born: South Lambeth, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Camberwell
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Dulwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 82
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Abbard 55
Matilda Abbard 44
Matilda E Abbard 24
Eliza H Abbard 16
Helen Abbard 15
Julia Abbard 13
Frances Abbard 11
Augustus N Abbard 6
Edward Abbard 3
Pelham Abbard 3
Ann A Woodman 26
Arthur S Woodman 4 Mo
Mary Langley 34
Caroline Legg 32


1861:
Name: Pelham Obbard
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Matilda
Gender: Male
Where born: South Lambeth, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Camberwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Obbard 65
Matilda Obbard 54
Helen Obbard 25
Julia Obbard 23
Frances Obbard 21
Augustus Obbard 16
Howard Obbard 13
Pelham Obbard 13
Mary Ann Shearman 40
Ann Warman 24

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 10 Aug 2010 14:01

Oh, I do wish I had a Pelham Obbard in my tree ... what an excellent name!

He may well be lurking somewhere mistranscribed.

Jill

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 10 Aug 2010 14:00

1861 England Census about Pelham Obbard
Name: Pelham Obbard
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Matilda
Gender: Male
Where born: South Lambeth, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Camberwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Obbard 65
Matilda Obbard 54
Helen Obbard 25
Julia Obbard 23
Frances Obbard 21
Augustus Obbard 16
Howard Obbard 13
Pelham Obbard 13
Mary Ann Shearman 40
Ann Warman 24
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Patricia

Patricia Report 10 Aug 2010 13:53

Looking for PELHAM OBBARD. He and twin Howard were born in 1848 to Matilda [nee Newton] and Joseph Obbard. Howard goes on to marry, but the last sighting of Pelham is on the 1851 Census age 13. I have not found him on any marriage, death, further census, or emmigration records , and would like to know what happened to him. His name however seems to live on as the middle names of 2 nephews. I am hoping someone either has him on their Tree, or has some sort of information on him.
Thank you for any help.
Pat