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Eames

Eames Report 13 Aug 2010 23:15

Riiiiiiiiight.. We need to look for John now - glad that cleared up!

Off to search once more (I'm sure others'll do the same :D)

Researching:
Eames (London & Middlesex), Mingo (Devon & Middlesex), O'Leary (London), Field (Kent & Sussex), Rossiter (Wiltshire), Greenshields (Scotland), Hardy (London). Now doing Hopekirk (Croydon, Hastings and Scotland), Noden (Hastings, East Sussex)

Eames

Eames Report 13 Aug 2010 23:17

Could you please tell me what was John's (c1862) father's name and his occupation please?

Researching:
Eames (London & Middlesex), Mingo (Devon & Middlesex), O'Leary (London), Field (Kent & Sussex), Rossiter (Wiltshire), Greenshields (Scotland), Hardy (London). Now doing Hopekirk (Croydon, Hastings and Scotland), Noden (Hastings, East Sussex)

safc

safc Report 13 Aug 2010 23:19

could this be him?

Births Mar 1859 (>99%)
ANDRON John Manchester 8d 254
ANDRON John Manchester 8d 3*

Researching:
Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.

DVP

DVP Report 13 Aug 2010 23:19

Hi again Ozibird

Thanks for the info, I never realised that information was there.

Kind regards
DVP

DVP

DVP Report 13 Aug 2010 23:25

Hi safc

I don't think so, I believe the 1891 Census gives him as born in St Giles, Strand, London.

Kind regards
DVP

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 13 Aug 2010 23:28

This bloke confuses me. I can't find him on any census other than the 1871. Wonder if he was in the army. Would somebody have a look for him on 1911 census, please?

Deaths Jun 1928
Handrahan Michael 66 Brentford 3a 82

If the info is correct, 66 at death means born 1861/62.

Vera

Vera Report 13 Aug 2010 23:29

1891 ref....

occupation painters labourer..

John Andren mistranscribed Andron
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Margarete
Gender: Male
Where born: St Giles, London, England

Civil parish: St Clement Danes
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement Danes
Town: Westminster
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Strand
Sub-registration district: St Clement Danes
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Andren 28
Margarete Andren 28
Lames Andren 8
Mary Andren 6
Margeret Andren 4
Leminnie Andren 1




DVP

DVP Report 13 Aug 2010 23:47

Hi Vera

The Leminnie that you have is in fact Jerimiah.

So you can see that again it is another name repeated through the Andron generations which is why my heart say's the John in the 1871 family are one of the same.

But My head say's find the document to prove it.

Vera

Vera Report 13 Aug 2010 23:50

Yes, That is correct ......it is Jeremiah on the image..... the names have been mistranscribed on the 1891. Did you find John born 1862/3 on the 1881??

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 13 Aug 2010 23:52

As you said all the names match...but the year of birth for John is wrong...... so frustrating.

Regards Vera

Eames

Eames Report 13 Aug 2010 23:52

I'll ask again..

What was John's (c1862) father's name and occupation please?

T

Researching:
Eames (London & Middlesex), Mingo (Devon & Middlesex), O'Leary (London), Field (Kent & Sussex), Rossiter (Wiltshire), Greenshields (Scotland), Hardy (London). Now doing Hopekirk (Croydon, Hastings and Scotland), Noden (Hastings, East Sussex)

DVP

DVP Report 13 Aug 2010 23:54

T in Middx

sorry for delay.

Johns father was called James & his occupation was given as a Bill Poster. This info was given on Johns Marriage Certificate to Margaret A Faregrave June 1882 it also stated that James was deceased.

DVP

DVP Report 13 Aug 2010 23:57

Hi Vera

No I can't find him on the 1871 Census either. I also can't find his father on the 1871 Census but he may of died before the Census was taken

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 14 Aug 2010 00:01

Deaths Sep 1861
Handrahan John Brentford 3a 47

Vera

Vera Report 14 Aug 2010 00:03

1861.....

Occupation Bill Poster...

James Handren
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: St Giles, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Giles
Ecclesiastical parish: London
Town: London
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: St Giles South
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 290
Household Members: Name Age
James Handren 35
Ann Handren 32
Mary Handren 12
Catherine Handren 11
Dennis Handren 5
Mary Handren 2


Regards Vera

DVP

DVP Report 14 Aug 2010 00:04

Hi Ozibird

Did the Death ref give an age for John Handrahan Brentford 3a 47

Kind regards
DVP

DVP

DVP Report 14 Aug 2010 00:09

Hi Vera

That looks like a promising Hit. Could you repeat that on the 1871 Census but include John 1862/3

Pleeeeeeeees

Kind regards
DVP

Vera

Vera Report 14 Aug 2010 00:10

Having found his parents. ???.......on the 1861 ..... I can see why you are having trouble.

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 14 Aug 2010 00:11

Oh Boy am I trying :-) so far no luck on the 1871 still looking though.

Regards Vera

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 14 Aug 2010 00:24

No ages recorded on death indices at that time.




Would it be worthwhile getting another child's marriage cert to see if it says the same thing?

I guess the witnesses on his marriage cert aren't any help?

Ozi

Marriages Mar 1888
BAYLISS Charles Brentford 3a 127
HANDRAHAN Jeremiah Brentford 3a 127 <<<<<<
REYDELLET Charlotte Josephine Brentford 3a 127
SHOULDERS Harriett Elizabeth Brentford 3a 127 <<<<<
I found Jeremiah married to an Elizabeth, and a Charlotte married to Charles Bayliss with mother-in-law Reydellet living with them.

OR

Marriages Sep 1890
Brown Polly Brentford 3a 199
HANDRAHAN Bridget Brentford 3a 199 <<<<<
LEWIS John Brentford 3a 199 <<<<<
Rose Samuel Mumford Brentford 3a 199

1891: Bridget Lewis John abt 1869 Chiswick, Middlesex, England Wife Chiswick, Middlesex

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