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Thanks MadMeg and Janey

No, you haven't upset me!! Such is life eh?
I really do appreciate your help

Gail

We haven't done James?


1871

Name: James Edward Castle
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles Castle
Mother's Name: Mary Castle
Where born: Sandwick

Civil parish: St Clement
Ecclesiastical parish: Canterbury and Sandwich
Town: Sandwich
County/Island: Kent
Registration district: Eastry

Charles Castle 34 - born Sandwich
Mary Castle 34
Charles Taylor Castle 12
Ann Thompson Castle 9
Elizabeth Clayson Castle 6
James Edward Castle 4
Hannah Leda Castle 2


Dang. Canterbury is where my Wiltshire ancestor (grandchild of Barnard and Castle) lived a long life - 6 censuses worth as an adult. Had my hopes up for a minute there. ;)


1851

Name: Charles Castle
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Castle
Mother's Name: Mary Castle
Where born: Sandwich, Kent, England

Civil parish: Sandwich St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Canterbury and Sandwich
Town: Sandwich
County/Island: Kent

John Castle 65 - born Kent (c1786)
Mary Castle 53
James Castle 20
George Castle 18
Charles Castle 14

Sorry to hear that too, Gail. We all do look at these things on their faces as a lark, but of course everyone does have close family members who are gone and missed to whom these searches relate. Like my dad ... the greatx3 grandson of Mary Castle. ;)

If you manage to trace yours to Wiltshire by any chance, well, we'll be cousins. Mine may actually have come from Box, Wiltshire!

Oh, and after some years of trying to exclude Barnard Castle (and Barnard College ...) from my searches ... I discovered that the parents of my grx3 grandfather were, yes, Barnard and Castle. Aargh.

Okay, I see you have Haydn in your tree, clearly a close relative. Sorry if I upset you about it, not intended.

WOW people.......you have been busy!!!!

Thanks ever so much

Madmeg, Haydn is the father of my first husband. Unfortunately, I was widowed quite young. I have come to a standstill with my own tree, so thought I would try reasearching this strand instead. I don't know a great deal about the Castle family as Haydn and his wife Irene divorced when my first husband was still very young.

I believe he married May Box as his mothers maiden name was Box and it is the only marriage I can find that fits (Castle and Box that is!)

Thanks again for all your help everyone ... I have some starters to work from now

Gail

Let's hope Gail comes back !

Hm, yes, I was going to do the searches by WOOTON, but I had to wander off and do some work. ;)

1891

HOOKER, John A Head Married M 46 1845 Licensed Victualler D Fly Proprietor
Ash
Kent VIEW
HOOKER, Mary Wife Married F 41 1850
Staple
Kent VIEW
HOOKER, Walter J Son M 16 1875 Scholar
Ash
Kent VIEW
HOOKER, Arthur J Son M 15 1876 Scholar
Ash
Kent VIEW
HOOKER, William A H Son M 12 1879 Scholar
Sandwich
Kent VIEW
*****WOTTON, Sarah J Servant Single F 18 1873 General Servant Domestic
Ash
Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
734 Folio:
126 Page:
25

Registration District:
Eastry Sub District:
Sandwich Enumeration District:
11 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Clement

Civil Parish:
St Clement Municipal Borough:
Sandwich Address:
Lord Warden Inn, New Street, St Clement, Sandwich County:
Kent

this looks like her -


Births Mar 1873 (>99%)
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Wooton Sarah Jane Eastry 2a 853



possibly -

1881

WOOTTON, James John Head Married M 32 1849 General Labourer
Sandwich
Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, Sarah Ann Wife Married F 30 1851
Sandwich
Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, John J Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar
Sandwich
Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, Sarah Jane Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar
Sandwich
Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, James Robert Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Sandwich
Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, Fanny Caroline Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar
Sandwich
Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, Daniel William Son Single M 2 1879
Sandwich
Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, William Fred Son Single M 0 1881
Sandwich
Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
994 Folio:
65 Page:
44

Registration District:
Eastry Sub District:
Sandwich Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Sandwich St Peter Municipal Borough:
Address:
St Peter Street, Sandwich St Peter County:
Kent

Clever Choccy!

I can't see a birth for Sarah Jane Wootton (a Sarah Simmons 1873 Blean is on the 1891 census, Sarah S).

FOUND THEM !

1911

CASTLE, James E Head Married M 43 1868 Generel Labourer Sandwich Kent VIEW
CASTLE, Sarah J Wife Married
6 years F 39 1872 Ash Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, John F Son Single M 20 1891 Baker Bread Sandwich Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, Emily E Daughter Single F 18 1893 Sandwich Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, Thomas G Son Single M 14 1897 Sandwich Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, James E Son Single M 12 1899 School Deal Kent VIEW
******WOOTTON, Henry W Son Single M 10 1901 School Deal Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, Elizabeth S Daughter Single F 9 1902 School Deal Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, Charles W Son Single M 7 1904 School Deal Kent VIEW
CASTLE, Mary A Daughter Single F 5 1906 School Sandwich Kent VIEW
CASTLE, Edith M Daughter Single F 3 1908 Sandwich Kent VIEW
CASTLE, George E Son Single M 0 (6 MONTH) 1911 Sandwich Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, William F Brother Single M 30 1881 Book Repairer Sandwich Kent VIEW
WOOTTON, George Nephew Single M 18 1893 Butcher Sandwich Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
4551 Reference:
RG14PN4551 RG78PN188 RD64 SD1 ED13 SN11

Registration District:
Eastry Sub District:
Sandwich Enumeration District:
13 Parish:
Sandwich St Clement

Address:
15 Upper Strand St Sandwich County:
Kent


John, Emily and Thomas Wootton all registered as Wootton at birth.

James, Henry, Elizabeth and Charles all registered as CASTLE at birth.



Sarah Jane Wootton married James Edward Castle in 1904 -


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Marriages Dec 1904 (>99%)
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Castle James Edward Eastry 2a 2287
Wootton Sarah Jane Eastry 2a 2287



John, Emily and Thomas possibly illegitimate if the William Wootton on the census is her brother.



The 1901 census for Deal in Kent is a 'missing census record', so looks unlikely that they will be found in 1901.

(Piece RG 13/835 Deal and Piece RG13/836 Deal are missing from 1901 census)

Search trees, MM. ;) Only one person has that Haydn!

What to do depends on what proof you have so far. You say you "believe" he married May Box in 1927. What makes you believe that? Do you have the son Haydn in your family tree already? Is this a direct ancestor or just a branch? I am conscious of going down a route that might not be the right one.

Please confirm what you know to be absolutely true.

Oh well....am off to bed now
Henry still hiding...lol

Thanks everyone for your help. I guess I will have to invest in some certificates. Your time and help is much appreciated

Gail

Interesting couple I can't find in 1901 or 1911 - married same quarter as HW's birth:

Marriages Dec 1900
Castle Frederick Eastry 2a 2109
Gibbens Helen Frances Eastry 2a 2109

Yes, Haydn b 1939, mmn Box.

Yeah, looking around, seems hopeless without at least a mother's name from the birth cert.

His father's name (if he knew it, or didn't make one up for his own reasons even if he knew it as my gr-grfather did) should be on his marriage certificate, but best to start with the birth cert.

If it just gives a mother, even, we'll have her to look for.

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about May Box
Name: May Box
Spouse Surname: Castle
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1927
Registration district: Eastry
Registration county (inferred): Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 2823
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

Henry W Castle.

Janey, he had a son, Haydn, in 1939 who was born in Eastry (other children were also born in the area)

I believe he got married in 1927 to May Box in Eastry.

Gail - I'm suspecting maybe he was born to unmarried parents and registered in his mother's surname and is hiding in 1911 under a stepfather's surname.

This is assuming that you do have evidence of his existence post 1911, which I'm not seeing any of!


Dee -- mine was Mary born around 1760 probably (married 1781, I was lucky to find), other than that, I have no clue ... but there's a decent chance her son was a bigamist!