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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 31 Aug 2010 11:36

On closer inspection of the 1911, it looks as if it was originally written that 2 children were born and 2 living, but they have altered it to 13 born 10 living and 3 died.
something fishy going on and no mistake!

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 31 Aug 2010 11:29

Now then....

I can find this marriage...

Marriages Mar 1887
BRAND Ellen Hull 9d 299
DICKENSON James Hull 9d 299

and then this...

1901 RG number: RG13 Piece: 4482 Folio: 40 Page: 23
Reg. District: Sculcoates Sub District: Drypool
Address: 33, Thomas Street, Sculcoates, Kingston Upon Hull County: Yorkshire (East riding)
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DICKENSON, James Head Married M 40 1861 Engine Driver Stationary Hull Yorkshire
DICKENSON, Ellen Wife Married F 34 1867 Hull Yorkshire
DICKENSON, Eva Daughter F 12 1889 Hull Yorkshire
DICKENSON, Frank Son M 10 1891 Hull Yorkshire
DICKENSON, Ellen Daughter F 5 1896 Hull Yorkshire
DICKENSON, Jessie Daughter F 3 1898 Hull Yorkshire

But Ernest is missing, James has a different occupation and birthplace, and Hannah is Ellen?

Jessie fits tho....

Something is just not right here, i think the children are registered with a different surname?

Tracey x

Gee

Gee Report 31 Aug 2010 11:20

Births Dec 1897 (>99%)
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Dickenson Jessie Sculcoates 9d 178



No luck with the 1901 though!

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 31 Aug 2010 11:04

hahahaha, they have been married 25 years in 1911 and Hannah is only 39....

Oooops lol


T x

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 31 Aug 2010 11:00

Ginny,

EDIT: I can find Jessie, but not Ernest?

Shall try and find James John on the 1901.


Tracey x

Angela

Angela Report 31 Aug 2010 10:53

Hi Tracey & all, Scotland has been mentioned, but he wasn't sure, this info is brilliant, thank you all so very much. xxx
Cheers Angie

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 31 Aug 2010 10:52

The 1911 States 13 children born and 3 had died.

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 31 Aug 2010 10:52

I do wonder with there being 10 years different between James John & Hannah, that maybe Hannah is wifey No2, or indeed not a wifey at all?


T x

Gee

Gee Report 31 Aug 2010 10:49

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Isabella Dickenson
Name: Isabella Dickenson
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Year of Registration: 1894
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 0
District: Sculcoates
County: Yorkshire - East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 104 (click to see others on page)



Thats why she is not on the 1911 census!

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 31 Aug 2010 10:47

Does your friend know if Cissie's father was Scottish? Any mention of Scottish family members at all?

1911 RG14PN28587 RG78PN1643 RD521 SD1 ED10 SN131
Reg. District: Sculcoates Sub District: Southcoates
Address: 18 Emmas Terrace Nornabell St Hull County: Yorkshire (East riding)
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DICKENSON, James John Head Married M 49 1862 Fitters Labourer Edinborgh Scotland
DICKENSON, Hannah Wife Married F 39 1872 Preston Yorkshire
DICKENSON, Ernest Son Single M 14 1897 Errand Boy Hull Yorkshire
DICKENSON, Jessie Daughter F 13 1898 School Hull Yorkshire
DICKENSON, Annie Daughter F 7 1904 School Hull Yorkshire
DICKENSON, James John Son M 6 1905 School Hull Yorkshire
DICKENSON, Alice Daughter F 4 1907 Hull Yorkshire
DICKENSON, Cissie Daughter F 1 (18 MONTH) 1910 Hull Yorkshire
DICKENSON, George William Son M 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 Hull Yorkshire

Cannot find a marriage for the parents.... maybe a Scottish one? Shall go look there!

Tracey x

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 31 Aug 2010 10:47



1911 census - household transcription
Person: DICKENSON, Cissie
Address: 18 Emmas Terrace Nornabell St Hull


DICKENSON, James John Head Married M 49 1862 Fitters Labourer Edinborgh Scotland VIEW
DICKENSON, Hannah Wife Married F 39 1872 Preston Yorkshire VIEW
DICKENSON, Ernest Son Single M 14 1897 Errand Boy Hull Yorkshire VIEW
DICKENSON, Jessie Daughter F 13 1898 School Hull Yorkshire VIEW
DICKENSON, Annie Daughter F 7 1904 School Hull Yorkshire VIEW
DICKENSON, James John Son M 6 1905 School Hull Yorkshire VIEW
DICKENSON, Alice Daughter F 4 1907 Hull Yorkshire VIEW
DICKENSON, Cissie Daughter F 1 (18 MONTH) 1910 Hull Yorkshire VIEW
DICKENSON, George William Son M 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 Hull Yorkshire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
28587 Reference:
RG14PN28587 RG78PN1643 RD521 SD1 ED10 SN131

Registration District:
Sculcoates Sub District:
Southcoates Enumeration District:
10 Parish:
Sculcoates

Address:
18 Emmas Terrace Nornabell St Hull County:
Yorkshire (East riding)

Angela

Angela Report 31 Aug 2010 10:45

Hi all, yes cissies was born a dickenson,
many thanks for you help, I will try to glean more info,
Best waishes
Angie xx

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 31 Aug 2010 10:43

Your birth matches the death i have Ginny, looking good ?

Maureen, if we have found her she certainly wasn't 18 when she married, more like nearly 30, this could indicate she wasn't maybe born a Dickenson? Or she simply married late?

You really do need that marriage cert.

T x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 31 Aug 2010 10:42

I can't find the births of any of the Dickenson siblings in the Yorkshire area. I think you need to buy Cissie's marriage certificate if you don't already have it to get her father's name:-

Name: Cissie Dickenson
Spouse: Thomas F. North
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1938
Registration district: Hull
Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire - East Riding
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 433

Kath. x

Gee

Gee Report 31 Aug 2010 10:42

Team work T


Edit; Sister Bella

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Isabella Dickenson
Name: Isabella Dickenson
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Sculcoates
County: Yorkshire - East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 189 (click to see others on page)



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Gee

Gee Report 31 Aug 2010 10:41

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Cissie Dickenson
Name: Cissie Dickenson
Year of Registration: 1909
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Sculcoates
County: Yorkshire - East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 115 (click to see others on page



Nearest birth. As Tracey says your friend will need her marriage cert to identify her age and her father

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 31 Aug 2010 10:40

Hmmm.... this could be your Cissie?

Name: Cissie North
Birth Date: 8 Oct 1909
Death Registration Month/Year: Jun 1996
Age at death (estimated): 86
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Register number: A51A
District and Subdistrict: 5501A
Entry number: 279


Tracey x

Angela

Angela Report 31 Aug 2010 10:39

I do not have the marriage cert, I am asking on behalf of a friend, trying to find the parents of Cissie Dickenson

Gee

Gee Report 31 Aug 2010 10:37

Was she born a Dickenson?

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Cissie Dickenson
Name: Cissie Dickenson
Spouse Surname: North
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1938
Registration district: Hull
Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire - East Riding
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 433
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 31 Aug 2010 10:37

Angela,

Do you have the marriage cert? How do you know she was born about 1920...? This could have been a second marriage!

Unless you have the cert you can only make assumptions!

I would order that cert and then go backwards with more info (ie her father's name)

If you have the 1938 marriage cert can you please give us the details.


Tracey x