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Birth Eliza Amy parfitt

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Nan

Nan Report 1 Sep 2010 19:33

No... Eliza was 63 in 1940 which makes her born in 1877. I am eager to hear your theory.You don't think that she may have been born abroad if her father was in the army?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 1 Sep 2010 17:46

So you think she knocked 10 years off her age when she married ?

But the ELIZA on 1901 is definatley 13 on census image and so born 1888 ish,just like Eliza says on her marriage cert.

I have a "Wild Theory" as our friend Janey would say, which I will explain in a short while,but back to feeding and thinking for now...

Nan

Nan Report 1 Sep 2010 17:22

you,re being very helpful thanks
although Eliza from Aberbeeg has been listed as Elizabeth too on a different census. she is definately 1877 rather than 1887

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 1 Sep 2010 17:03

Ok..
There is an Elizabeth Parfitt born 1875 AND an Eliza Parfitt born 1887

Births Dec 1887
PARFITT Eliza Pontypool 11a 146

And if she says on her marriage in 1940 that she was 63 then she is saying she was born in 1887ish not 1875ish.

I have looked at all the census data and I do believe that Eliza and Elizabeth are 2 different children.

There is a Chelsea pensioner record of a Thomas Parfitt who could well be her father who was born LLantrisant in 1869
British Army Service Records 1760-1913

First name(s): Thomas

Last name: PARFITT

Calculated year of birth: 1868

Parish of birth: Hantrissant<<Llantrisant.

Town of birth: Pontypridd

County of birth: Glamorganshire

Age at attestation: 21 years 7 months

Attestation date: 24 June 1889

Attestation corps: Welch Regiment

Attestation soldier number: 2524

Discharge rank:

Discharge corps:

Discharge soldier number:

The National Archives reference: WO97 / 3610 / 135

Next of Kin Henry Parfitt,Porth Glamorgan
Thomas,s occupation as a civvy was Collier.

Now how do I prove it.?

Let me think on it while feeding all at the homestead...

Nan

Nan Report 1 Sep 2010 16:43

on her marr cert it states she is a spinster in 1940 and George is a widower

Nan

Nan Report 1 Sep 2010 16:35

on marr cert occupation coal hewer address 15 heol las Llantrisant in 1940

Nan

Nan Report 1 Sep 2010 16:33

she died 20/02/1966 in adeline st Cardiff

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 1 Sep 2010 16:32

Name: Eliza Huntley
Death Registration Month/Year: 1966
Age at death (estimated): 89
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 8b
Page: 137

Edit...Still keep coming back to this one,its the only one that has any possibility of being her on Freebmd.

Births Sep 1875
PARFITT Elizabeth Pontypool 11a 157

Nan

Nan Report 1 Sep 2010 16:32

she married at 63 yrs and married George Henry Huntley 75yrs on 19th aug 1940 his address 15 heol las llantrisant her addres 17 heol las llantrisant in 1940. She has been documented as Amy Eliza on her marriage cert

Nan

Nan Report 1 Sep 2010 16:31

she married at 63 yrs and married George Henry Huntley 75yrs on 19th aug 1940 his address 15 heol las llantrisant her addres 17 heol las llantrisant in 1940. She has been documented as Amy Eliza on her marriage cert

Nan

Nan Report 1 Sep 2010 16:27

Eliza Huntley died 20/02/1966 in cardiff Adeline st
george huntley was married previously to Emma and had 4 children Thomas, albert, robert and mary and lived in bedwellty 1871

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 1 Sep 2010 13:28

1901

So George and Elizabeth/Amy would not have been able to marry anyway as he was already married elsewhere.

HUNTLEY, George H Head Married M 31 1870 Coal Hewer
Ebbw Vale
Monmouthshire
HUNTLEY, Mary A Wife Married F 28 1873
Mountain Ash
Glamorganshire
HUNTLEY, Elizabeth M Daughter F 8 1893
Mountain Ash
Glamorganshire

Registration District:
Pontypridd Sub District:
Llanwonno Enumeration District:
36 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Miskin St John

Civil Parish:
Llanwonno Municipal Borough:
Address:
13, Hughes Street, Llanwonno, Mountain Ash County:
Glamorganshire


Marriages Mar 1891
Huntley George Henry Pontypridd 11a 641
Jeffreys Mary Ann Pontypridd 11a 641


But on a second look I think that is a different George Huntley as he is still withMary Ann on 1911...


What does it say his occupation and age and fathers name and occupation is on his marriage to Elizabeth Parfitt..?
And when and where did he die?


Gotta go,back later.

Waves to Jules..~~~~~

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 1 Sep 2010 13:23

Is this her death?

Name: Elizabeth Huntley
Death Registration Month/Year: 1952
Age at death (estimated): 77
Registration district: East Glamorgan
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 8b
Page: 292

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 1 Sep 2010 13:11

1911 for her father and some siblings and I wonder whose all those Parfitt grandchildren are?

PARFITT, Tom Head Widower M 56 1855 Colliery Pumps Man Above Ground Radstock County of Somersetshire
PARFITT, William Son Single M 31 1880 Coal Miner Hewer Aberbeeg Monmouthshire
PARFITT, James Son Single M 17 1894 Coal Miner Hewer Aberbeeg Monmouthshire
PARFITT, Annie Daughter Single F 37 1874 Aberbeeg Monmouthshire
PARFITT, Hannah Maria Daughter Single F 27 1884 Aberbeeg Monmouthshire
PARFITT, Maggie Daughter Single F 19 1892 Aberbeeg Monmouthshire
PARFITT, Elizabeth Ann Granddaughter F 7 1904 Aberbeeg Monmouthshire
PARFITT, Frederick Grandson M 4 1907 Aberbeeg Monmouthshire
PARFITT, Edith Granddaughter F 0 (6 MONTH) 1911 Aberbeeg Monmouthshire

Registration District:
Pontypool Sub District:
Llanhilleth Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Llanhilleth

Address:
31 Powell's Terrace Aberbeeg Mon County:
Monmouthshire



But I cant find her on it nor can I find a baptism for her or any of her siblings,but Welsh online stuff is very behind compared to English things,so thats no surprise.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 1 Sep 2010 12:52

Katie?

Births Dec 1911
Huntley Sylvia E Parfitt Pontypridd 11a 1241

And Violet

Births Dec 1915
Huntley Violet L Parfitt Pontypridd 11a 1069

1911

HUNTLEY, George Head Married M 39 1872 Collier Hewer Monmouthsheir Ebbw Vale
RG number:


Registration District:
Pontypridd Sub District:
Llantrisant Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Llantrisant

Address:
Heol Las Llantrisant Glam County:
Glamorganshire

Says married 10 yrs but scribbled underneath is 16yrs?and no children,but no wife on there ,he is alone.


I keep coming up with this for her birth,maybe Amy was added at baptism.

Births Sep 1875
PARFITT Elizabeth Pontypool 11a 157

Will see if I can find one for her.

Julie

Julie Report 1 Sep 2010 12:29

Age wise this looks to be Thomas's death

Deaths Mar 1928 (>99%)
Parfitt Thomas 70 Merthyr T. 11a 915

Nan

Nan Report 1 Sep 2010 12:20

She was married to george h huntley in 1940 who was previously married, he lived in heol las Llantrisant in 1911. They had 2 children Katie born around 1912 and violet born 6th oct 1915 in Llantrisant. Violet married Frank Rees and had 3 girls Valerie May 19th May 1936, Hazel 1940ish and Sandra 1950ish.
According to her marriage cert her father was Thomas John Parfitt and he was a soldier (private) deceased in 1940

Nan

Nan Report 1 Sep 2010 12:13

She had 2 daughters and was living under her partners name huntley but wasn't actually married she didn't marry until 1940 through pressure from her family. One daughter Katie born 1912ish and violet born 1915 (my husbands grandmother)

Gee

Gee Report 1 Sep 2010 11:40

1901 Wales Census
about Amy Parfitt
Name: Amy Parfitt
Age in 1901: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Fredk Parfitt
Gender: Female
Where born: Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil parish: Newport
Ecclesiastical parish: St Maindee John
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales


Registration district: Newport (Monmouthshire)
Sub-registration district: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 223
Household Members: Name Age
Fredk Parfitt 31
Amy Parfitt 25
Amy Parfitt 1


Can you please give us all the info you have including her children and grandchildren

Gee

Gee Report 1 Sep 2010 11:34

Deaths Mar 1938 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

PARFITT Frederick C 79 Cardiff 11a 423


Im thinking she was born Tovey, married Fred and he died 1938. She then remarried Huntley

That would account for a very late marriage!