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Hi Deborah, I see what you mean but I keep some info on Genes and the most of my information {Private} is on Ancestry That way people can contact me and I can give some information, what I do is give the name of the father and mother {no dates} and how many children they had, that way if true people they will have to find out themselves, I alway try and get proof numbers so I know it is correct.
I to have spent a lot of money on finding out infomation.
Some people are very helpful and if I find part of my tree with proofs and others are incorrect I will contact them as we don't want our family tree to be a mistake on other trees and visa versa.
Has this made any sense to you all
Ann {in somerset} nee Smith

hi and many thanks
to you all for your input i really appreciate it.
i have deleted the so called ( name collector ) only yesterday the person and added 37 names to his tree ! the day before 20 odd and so on. every time i logg on he's added more names.
i myself have had contact from people who have given me information on my ancestors i cannot add them because i don't know who my gggg grandfather's parents where.
but this person just adds any old name to his tree. how sad is that.
he once told me my great grandfather wasn't born where i know he was born, there where 3 people with the same name same date of birth but born some where else in the country therefore connected to royalty. he still has that other person on his tree . obviously copied from some person's tree.
i also went on the mundia site looked at trees the other day now i cannot look at them so maybe it was a error on their part.
debbie

Coming back to the issue about the Mundia site, which is a new one to me.

I have just searched for a tree which I know is private on Ancestry and none of those offered for the (deceased) family member is listed. As the tree owner had sent a screen shot, it was easy enough to compare. So perhaps the privacy issue has been addressed, or was a clitch in the Beta format.

I know what you are saying Flick..but what is happening is that people who have been given permission to view a private tree are copying that info and putting it on a public tree..you trust these people I presume as they are relatives..that is why I never share my `full` tree with anyone.The one that has all my pictures and hard work that has taken me years to get at a very costly length.I have branches of the trees with limited info in seperate trees that I will share but only if I truly think there is a definate link.I have been stung in the past by someone who gave nothing but took everything..I am glad to say that as it was the early days of my searching a lot of the info was wrong..they still have the wrong info and have made no effort to correct..all they did was add numbers to their trees..I would sooner have a small tree with correct info than a large tree with a collection of tom,dick and harrys rellies that have no meaning...perhaps we should all think very carefully before we allow others to view at all?...

If you put info into the public domain, there is nothing you can do if people copy it.

If you wish to keep your research to yourself, put it on a tree program on your own computer....don't put it where the world and his wife can see it.

Just to update..I got in touch with Ancestry re the Mundia site and expressed my concern and that of others that privacy was an issue..this is the reply I got..

We appreciate your message.

We regret any confusion regarding the privacy of your trees. We take privacy matters very seriously and thank you for sending us your concerns. I have included the link for Mundia.com's privacy policy as follows:

http://www.mundia.com/us/PrivacyPolicy

You are correct that the two sites share tree information. However, if you have your tree listed as Private and not searchable on Ancestry.co.uk, the tree will not be searchable on Mundia.com.

Our records indicate that you have several trees with Ancestry.co.uk. Would you mind letting us know which tree you are concerned about that you have listed as Private on Ancestry.co.uk and are currently able to view on Mundia.com? We will then be happy to look further into the situation further for you.

I have also had parts of my tree copied by someone on Ancestry.

By their tree, my gggg grandfather was married 4 times, two different wives at the same time of course, lived in 2 different towns, and died a year later than my grandfather!!

As you can probably guess, there were two babies born with the same name, in the same district a year apart, they have been combined to make 1 person.

When I contacted them to delete certain information, I was told that I had no idea what I was talking about. They would not amend their tree!!!

Re Mundia, my results seem to be a little different.

I wanted to find a name in a private tree at Ancestry that wasn't in a public tree. Thought this would be a long process. Started with an unusual name in my tree, Monck.

I found this name:

Kind Mönck - 1760

in four "personal family trees" and if I want to view I get the message that the tree is private and I have to contact the member.

The name is not in any public tree at Ancestry.

At Mundia, on a search for the name, I get access to a tree posted by someone with the same surname as is on the four Ancestry trees. But possibly a different initial.

So -- are these two separate trees? One posted at Ancestry, and one posted at Mundia?

Or is the one at Mundia a copy of one of the personal (private) trees at Ancestry?

I'm confused. But if it is in fact a copy of one of the personal trees, I'm distressed. Not because I have a tree at Ancestry, because I don't and won't. (I really do regard the information in my tree as *my* intellectual property, because I did all the work that created the tree. And that was a whoooole lot more than just looking up records.)

Christine -- the bullet point you refer to will work for anyone who *knows* what's going on at Mundia. I use Ancestry daily and I'd never heard of it.

I have read this thread with interest, mainly because I can not afford Ancestry at the moment, logged into the site mentioned and did a search, came up trumps with a connection. Now in contact with a family member, via e.mail.

I have been able to pass on info but more importantly to me are the family photos the contact may have because my family tradition was to burn any photos after a family death. What that is all about I don't know !!

Having said that, my Mum has loads of photos, some going back to the 1890's (?) and we have no idea who they are.

Every negative has a positive.

For information-
the second bullet point seems appropriate for any one concerned

How do I delete my account?
If you want to delete your Mundia account, click on "My Account" in the upper right hand corner of your logged in home page, then click on “Deactivate my account” in the lower right hand corner of the page. This link will take you to a page that presents you with the following options:
■You can choose to make your Mundia profile not searchable (private) and deactivate your account.
■You can choose to make your Mundia profile not searchable (private), deactivate your account and hide your trees.
■You can choose to permanently and irreversibly delete your Mundia account. You will need to fill in the account cancellation form to do this.

Christine

hi all
and many thanks for all the info it's really appreciated. and in future i'll be much more careful as to who i open my tree to.
a lady got in touch with me the other day as we share the same ancestors, she told me to look for her tree, unfortunatly i cannot view it as i don't subscribe to ancestry.
just been on that mundia site put in a surname name and there it is i can view her tree. so if this site is part of ancestry and her tree is made private on that site how come i can see it all on mundia?
regards
debbie

My cousins tree on Ancestry is private and I can't view it, there's no need as I have access on Genes, but if I go to this site, there it is in plain view! I don't see how they can say it's private on Ancestry when they put it on here.

Sue

I have just checked out my Trees on Mundia.com and it says : This tree is PRIVATE. Only you or people you invite can view this tree.

So I hope this is correct. All other people's trees that I looked at on there are also available on Ancestry as public trees.

But as said before if you give someone else permission to view your tree and they add people from your tree then they make their tree public then your info is included.

I have just checked this out regarding a life story I allowed someone to copy which is now out there on Mundia.

I shall be very careful in future who I allow to see my tree.

Jennifer

Just to say that I have a private, non searchable in the indexes,tree,which stays private to me.I also have `branches` of trees with limited info on that are public.This will stop anyone gleaning all your info and you can put the bits of the trees on that you are stuck with...You can have as many trees as you want on Ancestry,so maybe that is worth a try....

Private Tree
This setting makes your tree "Private" so that it can't be viewed as a Public Member Tree. Note that the information from your tree will still be indexed for searching, but those who find your information can't view your tree without your permission.
What does this mean?
Even if you don't share your tree, other members can still learn if a specific deceased individual is in your tree, in addition to the birth year and birthplace of the person and your username (but no personal information about you).
They can then contact you anonymously through the Connection Service on Ancestry.com sites to request more information. Keep in mind that members who want to learn from your tree may also have helpful information about your tree to offer you in exchange.
Also prevent your tree from being found in the search index.
Note: although your tree will instantly become public or private, it usually takes about a week or more to be reflected in the search index.
hopefully he cannot see anything i add in future
regards
debbie

I have just done a reply on this and it has not appeared?..Have I been censored??!

Go onto Mundia and click onto edit for each name you dont want there. Then you can delete them

I think you will find whoever you have given permission to view your tree on ancestry can also view your tree on Mundai .
I also had all my names copied by a man on here ,who has so many names it is impossible he has researched them all himself.
I dont see the point myself.

this is the discription on the Mundia website

Mundia is the new family history site from Ancestry.com, the leader in online family history and the world's largest online family tree network. Mundia is a truly global platform offering access to more than 10 million family trees from all parts of the world with more than 1 billion profiles. Mundia is available in multiple languages

note the access to 10 million family trees
as i pointed out earlier all tree posted on sites like these are in the public domain and can be copied.

I do not condone copying anyones hard work just pointing out the pitfalls of putting your trees on these sites if you do not want anyone to copy your work.

with regards to people putting the info on their trees and not checking the details a tree on ancestry has my grandmother death in usa, my grandmother never had a passport let alone dying in America. I havent pointed out the mistake to them its there tough luck for not checking their research.

It's Mundia not Munai

You can log in using your Ancestry username and password

Carol