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Hello Janey: You have the marriage of William Turner and Anne Woodmass and the Isabella born 1857 is the right one. I don't have a ful birthday for her. My Turner cousin in U,S.A. has the certificates and censuses which she received from a researcher in England. She knew from her mother that 2 girls did not go to the U.S.A. but didn't know their names. There was Williamb, 1864, Sarah Aliceb. 5 Apr. 1865 married Alfred Taylor, Jonathan b. 1 Nov. 1871, Kate b,1874, married Henry Mills, Cornelius John b. 7 May 1877,married Dora Trehern and Francis b. 1880 . I will look up a census tomorrow as it is getting late here and I am 81 years old. Thank you and the others who answered my query. Fran

I just saw it JC was surprised to see it back up the top to be honest, thought the names looked familiar

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jax ... check your lookup thread.

I guess maybe Frances will be returning here some time ...

Well, she wasn't actually born in Benfieldside.


Marriages Jun 1856
TURNER William Durham 10a 342
WOODMASS Ann Durham 10a 342


Births Mar 1854
Turner Isabella Gateshead 10a 412
Births Dec 1855
Turner Isabella Gateshead 10a 488
Births Sep 1857
Turner Isabella Sunderland 10a 437
Births Mar 1859
TURNER Isabella Stockton 10a 27

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Births Sep 1856 ???
Turner Isabel Durham 10a 220

Well, another interesting Isabella, in 1891:

Name: Isabella Cullen
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Peter Cullen
Where born: Benfieldside, Durham, England

Civil parish: Benfieldside
Town: Blackhill
County/Island: Durham

Peter Cullen 40 - born in Ireland
Isabella Cullen 34
Bridget Cullen 18
Margaret Cullen 16
Henry Cullen 15
Thomas Cullen 9
John Cullen 11
Lizzie Cullen 7
Peter Cullen 5
Patrick Cullen 2
Cornelius Cullen 9/12


No Peter Cullen + Isabella marriage, and that looks like maybe a blended family. ... No, in 1881, they're:

Peter Cullen 30
Isabella Cullen 26 (born Black Hill c1855)
Bridget Cullen 8
Margret Cullen 6
Henry Cullen 4
Edward Cullen 1

-- but -- there's still no marriage.

And no Cullen births 1871-1891 in Lanchester registration district, where the children were supposedly born.


Strike two:

Marriages Sep 1871 (>99%)
Collen Peter Durham 10a 490
Crabb William Durham 10a 490
FAIRLESS Elizabeth Durham 10a 490
> SHANAN Isabella Durham 10a 490
> SHAVAN Isabella Durham 10a 490

Frances, it's really appreciated if people don't post and run ... stick around to answer questions ... like when the family emigrated, and what you've done to look for Isabella ... There's a helpful post pinned at the top of the TTF board (the full board where we read your post, not the Turner "surname board") explaining good practices.


The 1861 household for ref, in Iveston, Durham:

William Turner 29
Ann Turner 24
Isabella Turner 4
William Turner 10 MO

But having no luck with searches for various Isabella/William combinations, I'd go for Mabel Ramsey's birth certificate ... except I can't find that either.

As I suspected, though:

Births Jun 1881 (registered after the census)
RAMSAY Mabel Lanchester 10a 339

But I may be wrong -- William Ramsey in the 1881 was born in Newcastle.

Marriages Dec 1880
Corbett William Newcastle T. 10b 26
Lawrence Sarah Newcastle T. 10b 26
? MUSE Isabella Newcastle T. 10b 26
? Ramsay William Newcastle T. 10b 26
Redpath Sarah Newcastle T. 10b 26


Yup, I lose on that one:


1861

Name: Isabella Muse
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Muse
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Muse
Where born: Shotley Bridge, Durham, England
> Civil parish: Benfieldside
County/Island: Durham



Drawing board, back to. ;)


Most likely looking candidate:


Marriages Jun 1875
LAMMONBY Robert Lanchester 10a 512
Mullen George Lanchester 10a 512
Tindale Margaret Ann Lanchester 10a 512
Tindall Margaret Ann Lanchester 10a 512
> Turner Isabella Lanchester 10a 512

Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%)
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CALLAGHAN Thomas Lanchester 10a 442
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TURNER Elizabeth Ann Lanchester 10a 442

With an uncommon name and birthplace, search by them alone -- the only Isabella in 1881 born in Benfieldside is:

Name: Isabella Ramsey
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William Ramsey
Gender: Female
Where born: Benfieldside, Durham, England

Civil parish: Benfieldside
County/Island: Durham
Registration district: Lanchester
Street Address: 18 Baxton Burn Rd

William Ramsey 22
Isabella Ramsey 24
Mable Ramsey
Elizabeth Muse 32


I'd try FreeBMD for a marriage to William Ramsey.

When did the others emigrate?Can you give us a copy of the family in a census? When is the last census you have seen Isabella in? The 1881 is free at Ancestry and familysearch --

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=7572&enc=1

Have you looked for a marriage or death at FreeBMD?

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl


These are the things others would do for starters -- may as well give it a try, if you haven't!

Isabella Turner was the first born to William Turner and Anne Woodmass Turner.Born 1857 in Benfieldside, Co Durham, Eng. Isabella and my grandmother Elizabeth did not move to the U.S.A. when the rest of the family moved. My grandmother married Thomas Callaghan. I hope someone will find Isabella. Thank you for any help. Fran