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Thank you all for your help,
I have so many hand written notes, It will take me some time to up load it all.
Facts:
My G. Grandmother - Ada Giles DOB 1874 in Cardiff,
Her Father - Charles Giles DOB 1834 in Gillingham
Her Mother - Elizabeth Barber DOB 1850 in Broom, Somerset
Ada Giles married Thomas Walter Carver 1/12/1906.
Ada is listed as 31 years - spinster - living at Comet Street, Cardiff - Father Charles Giles – occupation - Coal Trimmer.
Thomas Walter Carver listed as 33 years - living at Comet Street, Cardiff - occupation Marriner - Father Robert Carver (deceased) – occupation – Architect.
The witnesses were Charles Giles and Kate Giles
Ada had 3 children - Queenie, before she was married then Doris, my grandma and then Clifford.
I have all the info relating to Ada and the children but I can not find any info on Thomas Walter which is why I wondered if he didn't use the Thomas bit.
What my mum has said:
Her grandfather was always known as "Walter" and we didn't know that he was a Thomas until I got the Marriage cert. Doris (my grandma) always said that Ada told her that her grand father was an architect from Liverpool. Walter was a mariner and went to see. One day he came home from sea, there was a row and Doris and Cliff ended up in a children's home. This was after the 1911 census
This is where it all started from:
This is the only Robert Carver I have been able to find as an architect – (which Astra kindly pointed me towards) who also had a son called Walter, but I do understand what you say about the dates.
On the 1881 census there is a :
Robert Carver 57 born Cumberland, Dissington and listed as living in Liverpool as an architect,
Rebecca Carver 52 born Wales
Ada 15 Daughter Born Wales
Amy 13 Daughter Born Wales
Ernest Parry 3 Grand son Born Wales
Norah Parry 1 Grand Daughter Born Wales
Tracing back to 1871 (this is one of the ones you came up with)
There is a Walter on here.
Name: Robert Carver
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Rebecca Carver
Gender: Male
Where born: Distington Hondon, Cumberland, England
Civil parish: Leighton
Ecclesiastical parish: Leighton in Trelystan
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Forden
Sub-registration district: Welshpool
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Carver 47 Occ: Superintendent of Works
Rebecca Carver 42
Elorfield Carver 12
Louisa Carver 11
Frederick Carver 9
Clara Carver 6
Ada Carver 5
Amy Carver 3
Walter Carver 9 Months - I have this birth cert which puts him as born 11/06/1870
mothers former name Rebecca Reese
Margaret Macdonald 21
Jane Kinsey 35
I have found this family and marriages that tie in with the children on
1861 census, 1871 census, 1881 census, 1891 census, 1901 census and 1911
between Leighton, Montgomeryshire, Liverpool and Westminster
but what I can't find is Thomas Walter Carver
There are 2 Cowbridge Roads in Cardiff - East and West – as P Wilford is listed as “Occupier” on the death cert, it may be the other road, not the one which is St David's hosp.
On this death cert Walter is listed as 73 in April 1944 which would make him born 1870/1
This would tie in with the birth cert but again not tie in with marriage cert.
Maybe I have gone totally up the wrong tree but listening to “family legends” makes it quite hard.
I do thank you for all your help.
Please be for you go searching for anything and taking up your time., ask me the questions as I may still have more answers that would make sense to someone else, I think I may be going round in circles.
Thanks again
Caroline
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Cowbridge Road East on which St David's Hospital is situated is primarily all businesses and shops whilst Cowbridge Road West is primarily domestic properties
Do you have the number of the house?
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Hello Ann,
Yes, I do
on the death cert all it says is:
30a Cowbridge Road, Cardiff
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from 1970 Kellys directory
30 on Cowbridge Road East is right next door to the hospital - it's William Treseders Nursery - plants that is
on Cowbridge Road West lives a Mrs Cope
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Thanks for that Ann
Mrs Cope doesn't mean anything to me,
I will try to go to the Glamorgan records office to see if they have electoral registers for 1939 or 1945
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the Records Office has moved to Leckwith apparently
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What was the stated occupation of the Walter Carver who died in 1944?
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He was a retired general labourer
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