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John Park - Mason in Dumfrieshire

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ach

ach Report 11 Nov 2010 12:30

Hi Everyone
Well my man didn't turn up in the hoddam MI's, but after much communication with DGFHS and yourselves I am now convinced my John Park married Janet Byers not Jackson. They turned up on the Halfmorton MI's.

James Park son to John Park in Broadmeadow who died 17th December 1833 aged 16 years also John Park who died 16th April 1843 in the 57th year of his age and Jannet Byers his spouse who died at Broadmeadow 1st April 1851 aged 62 years. The dates of death fit in with the census, also DGFHS also said the same as Ellen that it's not unusual for names to be recorded incorrect on BDM's. So thanks again to everyone.

Chris

ach

ach Report 5 Oct 2010 13:04

Thanks rootsgatherer for the info.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Oct 2010 19:01

The National Archives of Scotland have the following.

Country code GB
Repository code 234
Repository National Archives of Scotland
Reference HR540
Title Records of heritors of Half Morton Parish
Dates 1838-1927
Access status Open


ach

ach Report 4 Oct 2010 16:59

Thanks Ellen for that, I will let you know once I receive the MI's if my man is on, fingers crossed. Thanks so much for all the info you have been a great help and to everyone else who has participated.

Chris

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 4 Oct 2010 16:48

£21 per hour for a search at Dumfries and Galloway Council.

Ellen

ach

ach Report 4 Oct 2010 16:35

I'll wait to see if the Hoddam MI's turns anything up.
If not, then I will have to go to D&G council records. Do you know if they will search the records for you or if you have to go there and search yourself.

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 4 Oct 2010 16:34

Title Parish registers for Hoddam, 1746-1854
Authors Church of Scotland. Parish Church of Hoddam (Dumfriesshire) (Main Author)

Notes Microfilm of original records (Books OPR 829 ; vols. 1-2.) in the New Register House, Edinburgh.


Subjects Scotland, Dumfries, Hoddam - Church records


Format Manuscript (On Film)
Language English
Publication Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1952-1985
Physical on 2 microfilm reels ; 35 mm.

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 4 Oct 2010 16:31

This could be too late for your John Park
Title Parish registers for Half-Morton, 1787-1854
Authors Church of Scotland. Parish Church of Half-Morton (Dumfriesshire) (Main Author)

Notes Microfilm of original records (Books OPR 828 ; vols. 1-2.) in the New Register House, Edinburgh.


Subjects Scotland, Dumfries, Half-Morton - Church records


Format Manuscript (On Film)
Language English
Publication Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1952-1985
Physical on 2 microfilm reels ; 35 mm.

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 4 Oct 2010 16:17

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ellieathome

ellieathome Report 4 Oct 2010 16:08

DGFHS has got OPR burials ,but Hoddam is not among them.

ach

ach Report 4 Oct 2010 16:07

The wills are def. not my man, have just sent for the MI's for Hoddam so maybe I will get lucky with that. This is really turning into a right mystery, but maybe you are right Ellen with the Janet Byers, it's just the name on the Marr.Cert that took me on the trail of a Janet Jackson, but like you say this could be the wrong maiden name.

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 4 Oct 2010 16:02

DGFHS
MI's -Hoddam -£4 weight -112g
That sounds promising

Ellen

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 4 Oct 2010 15:57

Not all burials are recorded before 1855 and you can only try the MI's.
I have not came across a poor relief in any finch of a parish records.they have there own books.
Ellen

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 4 Oct 2010 15:52

the Janet Jackson married to David Park dies 1881 born c 1800.Don't think it's yours.As we know John Park was alive in the 1841 census then likely wills are not his.

Ellen

ach

ach Report 4 Oct 2010 15:42

HI Rootgatherer
I have tried the OPR burials on SP but got nothing don't know if I'm doing somthing wrong but I looked for John Park between 1841 and 1858.

Hi Potty, have looked through the MI at rootsweb, but nothing there. will have a look at the wills on SP.

Potty

Potty Report 4 Oct 2010 15:29

There are 3 references to wills for a John Park , Mason, on scotlandspeople, but the last one is dated 1829.

Potty

Potty Report 4 Oct 2010 15:28

This site has transcriptions of MI for some D&G graveyards - might help you to decide which, if any, you buy from the fhs:

http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~scottish/D-GInscriptions.html

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Oct 2010 14:59

The OPRs also record parish burials - have you checked those out on Scotlandspeople? Sometimes it involves just trawling through the entries as they may not be indexed. The amount of information in these records varies from parish to parish. You may be lucky enough to find a date of death and a date of burial and sometimes even the cause of death is recorded. These are useful as not everyone who was buried is recorded on a monument or headstone and so many never appear in the MI records.

As far as poor relief records are concerned, I think at that time the parish church would be responsible and so again any assistance would be in the Old Parish Records if they have survived.

ach

ach Report 4 Oct 2010 13:23

Ellen the funny thing is I did a search on SP and found a marriage 23/7/1827 parish of Langholm or Staplegorton.
David Park mason of the parish of Half Morton and Janet Jackson of this parish.
I then wondered if John Park was David John.

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 4 Oct 2010 13:16

Ach,I think it is very poor info on the marriage Certificate,the registrar was not all that good. Just states Janet Jackson,with the word maiden name written underneath .That could mean anything,as she could have remarried a Jackson,does not say wether she is deceased.
As John Park was in Hoddam in the 1841 census ,then it is likely that is where he is buried,so i would go for Hoddam MI's .Book form fine.

Ellen