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Very true that he is prob at sea on 1911 Patricia

Janet is the only one to be found that would fit her birth and name(ish)in that area.
And fits the marriage.

We really need the birth years of Morgan and William ,brothers of David/Davy here,and you have to have certs every single step of the way for Welsh as they are too hard without ,what with them all having the same names.

How did you get the parents names for David ,Morgan and William Christine.?

I dont see Morgan Richards (Capt)on R.N records on NationalArchives

These are all the births for a Morgan Richards in Cards between 1861 and 1891.Morgan being less popular than David or William of course.

Births Mar 1862
RICHARDS Morgan Aberystwith 11b 64
Births Mar 1864
Richards Morgan Aberystwith 11b 59
Births Jun 1866
RICHARDS Morgan Aberystwyth 11b 57
Births Jun 1872
Richards Morgan Aberystwith 11b 73
Births Mar 1882
Richards Morgan Tregaron 11b 72

Christine says it is not Janet but Jane. (But that 1911 Durham school mistress looks good).
If he were a mariner he could be over the horizon in 1911?

Goginan is next to Capel Bangor and or Banc Y Darren which is just above Aberystwyth .

Llanrhystud is too far down the country to be them and Festiniog is too far up,unless they moved Goginan way later on of course.

What certificates do you have Christine?

Here is Janet in 1911
SMITH, William Head Married M 62 1849 Retired Coal Miner Deputy Overman Durham Shildon
SMITH, Catherine Wife Married
33 years F 55 1856 Cardigan Melindwr
SMITH, Janet Daughter Single F 30 1881 Assistant School Mistress Durham Eldon

Registration District:
Aberystwyth Sub District:
Rheidol Enumeration District:
11 Parish:
Melindwr

Address:
Mount Pleasant Coginan County:
Cardiganshire

So Mr Richards must be around somewhere for them to have met.

Have you got Jane Smith's name from her son's birth certificate?
When do you think Morgan was born - and where did you get the information about him?
Thanks

Thanks for details of marriage of Janet Smith and Davy Richards, I have been searching for Jane Smith and David Richards.

Can't seem to find any details on the marriage of Evan Richards to Margret Jane Davies.

Could you put up the details of the marriage of Evan to Margaret Davies?
Thanks

Marriage?:
Marriages Mar 1912
Richards Davy Smith Aberystwith 11b 45
Smith Janet Richards Aberystwith 11b 45

Your father?:
Births Mar 1914
RICHARDS William E S Smith Aberystwyth 11b 82

All the details that I have are Evan was my great grandad he married a Margret-Jane Davies(Davies being her previous husbands name) Evan was a Master Mariner they had 3 sons Morgan (Capt) Master Mariner (R.N)and William(Capt) Master Mariner (M.N) and David(Capt)Master Mariner (M.N) David Married Jane Smith who was born 1879 in Durham Had a son William Evan Sidney and a daughter Kathleen. William being my dad. Sure they lived in Aberystwyth I know my dad lived near Devils Bridge.

When were William and Morgan born?
Thanks

Looks like Patricia has them! Having said that, the names Morgan and Evan figure in the children 1901?
Jan

How sure are you about area?
1891 Wales Census
David M Richard Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Relation: Son Father's Name: Evan Richard Mother's Name: Margt Richard Gender: Male Where born: B Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales Civil parish: Ffestiniog Ecclesiastical parish: St David Town: Ffestiniog County/Island: Merionethshire Country: Wales
Registration district: Festiniog Sub-registration district: Festiniog
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Evan Richard 42
Margt Richard 35
David M Richard 14
John Richard 11
Maggie Richard 8
Winifred Richard 5
Jane Richard 2
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4646; Folio 65; Page 15; GSU roll: 6099756.

I think Aberystwyth is in Cardiganshire - might this be David 1901?


1901 Wales Census

Name: David Evan Richards
Age in 1901: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Richards
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanrhystyd, Cardiganshire, Wales

Civil parish: Llanrhystyd Mefenydd
Ecclesiastical parish: Llanrhystyd St Rhystyd
Town: Llanrhystyd Mefenydd
County/Island: Cardiganshire

Registration district: Aberystwth
Sub-registration district: Llanrhystyd

David Evan Richards 28
Mary Richards 26
Evan Morgan Richards 2
Elizabeth Jane Richards 6 Months

Can't seem to find any census that lists a David Richards born abt 1876 in Wales with siblings William and Morgan and parents
Evan and Margaret. Think they lived in Goginan Nr Aberystwyth.
Can anybody help?