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Hi Sheila

I haven't found any other obvious children so far and unfortunately David died in 2000 so I'm hoping he may have some children I can find eventually.

Thank you for looking and the ideas.

Hi

If the marriage was 1920 and David was born 1925 where there any other children from this marriage ? as formal adoptions only began in 1927.
If Patricia was born 1938, then David would have been 13 when she was born, Is he still alive to ask ?

Just found Alberts in 1890, there is someone called Karen on this site who he may have him in her tree maybe she can be of help to you.

That Patricia Seymour was my favourite until I got her marriage cert which stated her fathers name as Albert David Seymour. I had thought she might have rearranged or invented her names too but can't find any other likely female seymours born 10 years either side of 1938 (she was 21 in 1959 according to her marriage cert). Thank you for trying though :-)
Karen

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Hello Karen,
People have a nasty habit of collecting middle names. Have you considered this birth?


Births Mar 1932
Seymour Patricia R Wells Basford 7b 426

Marriages Jun 1926
Seymour William R Wells Basford 7b 509
Wells Dorothy R Seymour Basford 7b 509


Marriage
Patricia R N Seymour
Spouse Surname: Rogers
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1959
Registration district: Nottingham
Registration county (inferred): Nottinghamshire
Volume Number: 3c
Page Number: 642

Rowland D Rogers
Spouse Surname: Seymour
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1959
Registration district: Nottingham
Registration county (inferred): Nottinghamshire
Volume Number: 3c
Page Number: 641
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

Paul

Well said Karen! Go for it.

Astra
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Thank you everyone for the lovely replies - they are appreciated EVEN more than the information. I will persevere and won't now be put off.

X

Hi Karen, this thread pops up in My Threads because I posted on it at the beginning. I have to second what Fan has said (she's not a bad old stick really and she's quite good at what she does!) I do wish people would remember that we are not all born with an inbuilt knowledge of how to go about researching our family history.


I was pleased that you had figured out how to reply - I send about 50 messages out per day to people who haven't worked out how to find their thread again and I haven't sent one to you, so you have saved me some work - thank you. Sorry I can't help you any further though. Cx.


Edit....I'm glad Astra feels the same way too.

Karen
Please don't let what was said on here put you off your research. You were neither rude nor ungrateful and certainly did not waste anyone's time and like Fanny BG I just wish i could have found the info you were looking for.
You did nothing to warrant being treated the way you were and as far as I am concerned you did everything right. You gave the information you had and responded to queries quickly.
It's such a shame that your experience on these boards has left a bad taste, not only in your mouth but in mine too.
Astra
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I for one have not found your replies to be rude and ungrateful Karen and would have helped had I felt able to.
I also do not think you have wasted MY time.
My time is given of my free will.
Unfortunately I can find nothing registered under that name abroad, as I said, so feel that she may well have been adopted/taken in by the Seymours.
I have also searched deaths for the Christian names using 1938 =/- 5 years but have found nothing.
The same with a possible remarriage.and again drawn a blank.
If you come up with any other clues that may help in your search please feel free to ask for help from me and if I can give it I will.
Fan

Thank you for all your help everyone. I'm sorry if you think my replies were rude and ungrateful and so warrant the message i received: I was treating this as a sort of ongoing conversation. I have never been on anything like this and don't know either the protocol or how much information I should have provided. I am sorry to have wasted your time but please believe I am grateful

It depends whether or not it was a registered adoption. I think if it was her birth would have been registered again under her new name. There is no evidence of that but there are people on here who are far more knowledgeable about the adoption system than I am.
If it wasn't a registered adoption she could have been the child of a relative (possibly unmarried) who was given to them to raise. But I think we need to cover every other avenue before we start going into that area.

Well I have no proof who her mother was but I can't find birth records for her name with or without mothers maiden name and her 2 middle names tie in with Jessie Holden and her sister. Also I couldn't find another birth record for an Albert David Seymour. Finding a living relative of David Keith Seymour would be a big help!

Only the adoptee can access their adoption records,no one else.
If you think she was adopted maybe and have no info to go on there is about zero chance of finding anything at all.
You would need to have her birth name to even be able to send for her birth cert if you could find her refs to do so.

Are you guessing about who Patricia's mother was...........purely on the fact that she named her father as Albert David, and a man of that name married a woman whose names you give..............or do you have some other back-up info?

That had crossed my mind too - any clues how to start researching adoptions?

I am wondering if she was adopted. If Albert and Jessie only had one child David, and for some reason Jessie couldn't have any more and they decided to adopt a daughter. Might be another road to research.

I have searched FMP for births abroad and reg with the British GRO,but she is not on them.

I'll have to check her father's occupation when I get home as I'm at work right now. I wondered about her being born abroad too (as I was even though my parents are English and I was brought up here). The male you found born in 1925 was born in Hendon and died in Southampton - his name was David Keith Seymour. One of jessie's brother's daughters knew him (I'm not sure when) but I'm waiting to hear back.

Name: Albert D Seymour
Spouse Surname: Holden
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1920
Registration district: Hendon
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 814
Find Spouse: Jessie M N Holden

thers only the one birth reg for this couple in 1925

Albert D Seymour
Spouse Surname: Holden
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1920
Registration district: Hendon
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 814


Jessie died in 1978