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You're not alone, Suzanne. I started out knowing the names of 7 of my 8 gr-grparents, and where some of them came from, but no more than that. What you get now is the fun of finding it all!

Just adding what RR left out there: the date --

Births Mar 1917
Clements John F Martin Swansea 11a 1902

Martin is his mother's surname.

So now, go to FreeBMD (it's free as it says, and it's fast and easy):

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

and search for other births with the surname Clements and mother Martin. The ones in Swansea are very probably his siblings. I'm not going to copy them here because it is infinitely more interesting to find them yourself.

There's an Albert, so that's another indication you're tracking the right John.

The earliest one is 1912, so then search for a marriage of surname Clements to surname Martin, say 1900 to 1912. You'll find one in Swansea.

But to be sure you are tracing the right people you really do have to have your Frederick's marriage and birth certificates to start -- to make sure the age and father's name match. You order them here:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Then you can look in the 1911 census to see who is living with his parents -- whether there were children born before 1911. (That's when the index started including mother's surname.)

http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx

Meanwhile, with his siblings' and probable parents' names, you can search trees here at GR to see whether anyone has those people in their trees. ... Unfortunately, it seems not. But you can put all the names you find in your own tree, so anyone who searches for them will find you.

You can also start searching at FreeBMD for the marriages (or unfortunately, sometimes, deaths in childhood) of John's siblings.

But you do want to confirm with certificates that you're searching the right person.

And by the time you've done that, you'll be hooked. ;)

thanks for the info, its sad that i dont know anything about this side of the family, my grandfather, my dad and his two brothers are about all i know, and i know my grandfather had a brother albert but thats it, thanks again suzanne x

John Ferguson Clements
Birth Date: 4 Jan 1917
Death Registration Month/Year: Aug 1995
Age at death (estimated): 78
Registration district: Swansea
Inferred County: Glamorgan
Register number: A115
District and Subdistrict: 8971A
Entry number: 54


Probable birth

Clements John F Martin Swansea 11a 1902

Name: John F Clements
Spouse Surname: Mccarthy
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1940
Registration district: Swansea
Registration county (inferred): Glamorgan
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 2855
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

Certificate will give you father's names

sorry only just realise that id left the location out but thanks for bringing it to my attention, still getting used to this site as you can probably tell, thanks again x

Will send a birth by pm.

i am in search of relatives but dont really have anything to go on, all i know is my dad is brian clements and he has two brothers philip and john, my grandfathers name was john ferguson clements (1919)ish and he married my grandmother ellen mccarthy and are from wales, if anyone knows anything that may help then please contact me, thanks suzanne x