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hi ninja,
they had a lot of children,of which only the 4 survived,
i will look into what happened to the other 3 children, thank's for your help,
martyn

Do you have the death certificate for Elizabeth?

If she was a widow that would be stated on the certificate - in which case you would be looking for a death for John between 1911 and 1918.

If John registered the death for her then you know he's definitely alive in 1918.

thank's for that ninja,
only john to go now

This looks like it could be the death for Elizabeth McNeill in 1918

Deaths Mar 1918
McNeill Elizabeth A 56 Oldham 8d 915

So, its possible John may not have died in Oldham. Have you traced all the children to see where they ended up? You may find a death for John in a different area if he lived with one of his children.

Looks like his birth was possibly in West Derby, Liverpool - perhaps he died there?

hi ninjalady,
yes that is them,my ggrandmother was ethel,why could i not find them,
thank's for your info now i have just got to find his death.
thank you martyn

If the 1901 is correct, then this is the 1911 for them

MCNEILL, John Head Married M 54 1857 Laborer Textile Works Lancs Bacup
MCNEILL, Elizabet Ann Wife Married 30 years F 48 1863 Lancs Oldham
MCNEILL, Thomas Son Single M 25 1886 Card Room Grinder Cotton Spinning Lanca Lees Nr Oldham
MCNEILL, Agnes Daughter Single F 22 1889 Card Room Engine Head Tenter Cotton Spinning Lanca Lees Nr Oldham
MCNEILL, Ethel Daughter Single F 16 1895 Card Room Rover Tenter Cotton Spinning Lanca Lees Nr Oldham

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
24441 Reference:
RG14PN24441 RG78PN1403 RD469 SD1 ED3 SN142

Registration District:
Oldham Sub District:
Oldham East Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Oldham

Address:
10 Regent Street

Is this the right family in 1901?

1901 England Census
about Agnes McNiell Name: Agnes McNiell
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John McNiell
Mother's Name: Elizabeth A McNiell
Gender: Female
Where born: Lees, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Lees
Ecclesiastical parish: Leesfield St Thomas
Town: Lees
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 2 Rhodes Hill House

Registration district: Ashton-under-Lyne
Sub-registration district: Knott Lanes
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 270
Household Members: Name Age
John McNiell 45
Elizabeth A McNiell 39
John Saml McNiell 19
Thomas McNiell 15
Agnes McNiell 12
Ethel McNiell 6

iam trying to find the death of my gggrandfather,john mcneill born 1857 i think in bacup lancashire,he married elizabeth bradbury in 1880 at oldham parish church,my problem's start at the 1901 census i cannot find the family,they lived at 54 hartshead street ,lees,oldham lancs.(at a time it was under cheshire).
all their children were born at this address up to 1899,
they do not come up on the 1901 census at genes?
not sure were to look now,if anyone could find john ,and when he died it would be most appreciated.
thank's martyn.




i have looked on freebmd cheshire bmd family search