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hannah then remaried alder oakley in 1912 one son found sidney w oakley m mn ashton born 1918

Sadly Richard died in 1908

Deaths Mar 1908
Ashton Richard 33 W.Bromwich 6b 543

and his wife is back with her folks. I wonder if there was a Mining accident?

HOLLYOAK, Alice Wallace Head Widow F 42 1869 Living On Compensation Staffs West Bromwich
HOLLYOAK, Thomas Wallace Son M 9 1902 Staffs West Bromwich
HOLLYOAK, Alice Daughter F 7 1904 Staffs West Bromwich
HOLLYOAK, John William Son M 4 1907 Staffs West Bromwich
ASHTON, Harriet Martha Sister In Law Widow F 37 1874 Living On Compensation Staffs West Bromwich
ASHTON, Richard Son M 7 1904 Staffs West Bromwich

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17319 Reference:
RG14PN17319 RG78PN1062 RD371 SD4 ED14 SN121

Registration District:
West Bromwich Sub District:
West Bromwich North East Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
West Bromwich

Address:
20 Parsonage St West Bromwich County:
Staffordshire

Richard did die in a mining accident at Hamstead Colliery, Great Barr, there is an account of it here http://www.cmhrc.co.uk/cms/document/1908_10.pdf

His wife had only had one child by 1911 so the grandchildren are not his.

This looks like John in 1891, he had married Alice Barnes in 1889 in West Brom

ASHTON, John Head Married M 20 1871 Coal Miner West Bromwich Staffordshire
ASHTON, Alice Wife Married F 20 1871 West Bromwich Staffordshire
ASHTON, Alice Daughter F 1 1890 West Bromwich Staffordshire

RG number:
RG12 Piece:
2273 Folio:
48 Page:
8

Registration District:
West Bromwich Sub District:
West Bromwich North East Enumeration District:
16 Ecclesiastical Parish:
All Saints

Civil Parish:
West Bromwich Municipal Borough:
West Bromwich Address:
Sink Hole, Bird End, West Bromwich County:
Staffordshire

Sadly it seems daughter Alice died aged 2

Deaths Dec 1892
Ashton Alice 2 W. Bromwich 6b 485

In 1901 Clara,

ASHTON, Clara Servant Single F 21 1880 Domestic Servant
West Bromwich Staffordshire


RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2723 Folio:
139 Page:
26

Registration District:
West Bromwich Sub District:
West Bromwich North-East Enumeration District:
14 Ecclesiastical Parish:
All Saints

Civil Parish:
West Bromwich Municipal Borough:
Address:
Infections Hospital, Cemetery Lane, West Bromwich County:
Staffordshire

She married the following year
Marriages Mar 1902
ASHTON Clara W. Bromwich 6b 1117
Dale John W Bromwich 6b 1117

and in 1911, all 3 children born were still alive

DALE, John Head Married M 36 1875 Coal Miner Loader Below Ground West Bromwich Staffs
DALE, Clara Wife Married
9 years F 30 1881 West Bromwich Staffs
DALE, Florence Daughter F 8 1903 School West Bromwich Staffs
DALE, John Son M 6 1905 School West Bromwich Staffs
DALE, Alfred Son M 3 1908 School
RG14 Piece:17318
Reference:RG14PN17318 RG78PN1062 RD371 SD4 ED13 SN63

Registration District:West Bromwich
Sub District:West Bromwich North East
Enumeration District:13
Parish:West Bromwich

Address:
All Saints St West Bromwich County:
Staffordshire

John still remains a bit of a mystery!

Katie you have been so helpful, i wont have chance to look through all this until a bit later, just wanted to say a quick thankyou so that you dont think your efforts have gone unappreciated. Will take a good look at this later and reply again.
Thanks, Abi :o)

Here is Job in 1911, the couple had no natural children

ASTON, Job Head Married M 42 1869 Coal Hewer West Bromwich Staff
ASTON, Louisa Wife Married 15 years F 43 1868 Bilston Staff
ASTON, Harry Adopted Son M 8 1903 Cannock Staff

RG number:RG14
Piece:16945
Reference:RG14PN16945 RG78PN1047 RD368 SD2 ED12 SN145

Registration District:Cannock
Sub District:Cannock
Enumeration District:12
Parish:Cannock


Address:Burgoyne St High Town Hednesford County:
Staffordshire

There is a lot to take in in one go! Just a bit more - though John and Jane state they have been married 45 years in 1911 they didn't actually marry until the end of 1871.
Here is Jane and the early children in 1871 living in West Brom

Hannah Nightingale 40
Jane Nightingale 23
Job Nightingale 18
Richard Nightingale 13
Job Nightingale 3
John Nightingale 11 Months

and here is John

ASHTON, Hannah Head F 66 1805 Staffordshire
ASHTON, John Son M 24 1847 Staffordshire
PUGH, Susannah Daughter F 48 1823 Worcestershire
PUGH, Lavinia Daughter F 18 1853 Staffordshire
ASHTON, Joseph Lodger M 64 1807 Staffordshire

RG number:
RG10 Piece:
2985 Folio:
71 Page:
2

Registration District:
West Bromwich Sub District:
West Bromwich, North-East Enumeration District:
15 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
West Bromwich Municipal Borough:
Address:
All Saints Street, West Bromwich County:
Staffordshire

John seems to have died in 1941 still in West Brom

Name: John Ashton
Death Registration Month/Year: 1941
Age at death (estimated): 70
Registration district: West Bromwich
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 1623

Thankyou so much for finding all this, definately a lot to take in.

I googled the Hamstead mining disaster and i actually found a photograph of Richard Ashton and his brother in law Thomas Hollyoak who also died in the accident. It was Thomas's widow and children who Harriet (Richards widow) was living with in 1911, both living off compensation. It really is fascinating what you can find with a bit of help.

Still need to try and get my head around Job and John, theres a few things confusing me. I'll have another look through what we've got. Might be back for more help soon.

Thanks again, Abi

P.S Can i ask where you find the information and does it cost you?

Glad it's been useful. Some of the info ( births, marriages & deaths ) came from http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl which is free. The census info came from Findmypast which I have a subscription to so it didn't cost me any extra. Let me know if you need any other help.
Katie

Hello.i am related to your james ashton by virtue of the fact that alfred
george ashton(1892) younger brother to james was the 2nd husband
of my maternal grandmothers sister.Richard ashton(1875) older brother
to james was killed in the hamstead colliery mine disaster in 1908.You are welcome to view my family tree if you ask.You may not live in this area
and know where hamstead is but there is a monument to the men who
died in the disaster & i have a photo of the plaque showing the names
of the men who where killed & i could send you a copy.A.Poulton.

If you wish to contact me my no is 01215052067. you can withold your no.