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Thanks Maura...Had a devil of a job reading the original....couldn't decipher address for Charles but managed L.Gardiner St.for Anne.Also Looks like Disp.
in last column left hand page....
can you decipher it ?

Looks like disp to me, Charles address is Naas

thanks very much Maura.

Someone in Dublin got me the certificate and sent me photos of it. I'll look at those pictures again and see how I misread or how the photos missed out stuff. I didn't see any reference to the mothers.
Does Jacobi translate as Jacob or James?

This could get me a whole lot further (except for a name like Mary!!!)

best wishes

Anne Power manchester.

Anne, the copy you have is from the offical registery, where as the one on the site I name is from the church records. In some cases the church records can have more information.

Thanks, Maura.

At the moment I'm getting "no result" for every search I've tried on the church site.
Have studied the photos I have of the state document. The mothers' names are not given. Occupations of the couple are. And "dec." is added for both fathers.
Does the Church one give death clues for the mothers?

I think we should assume that father's name was Merins and Cullen was an error, don't you?

At least I can add 2 Mary's to the tree.

best wishes

Anne

This is the link to charles & Anne's marriage, both mothers are Maria, but they don't give any info on them.

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/reels/st.mary%27s-pro-cath_mf_1881-1904_ma_0232.pdf

Thanks. That makes more sense.

Now have to find their dates and places of birth and marriage. I guess it's endless!

Anne.

Hi Erin and Maura,

I hadn't realised that this correspondence had run to a second "page" so have been replying to earlier messages I think !

But now have cottoned on and have been looking at the original church document myself.

It gives place of residence for both parents doesn't it?
Both parental couples lived in same place didn't they?? but I can't decipher it.

Needs someone who knows lots of Irish place names.

Or have I got it all wrong. I don't know Latin either to translate the headings.

More help needed.

Anne

No it gives place of residence of the Bride & Groom, whether they lived with their parents that another thing.

Anne....

I am having a terrible time with the site today....(it keeps freezing and the stopping completely) so heres hoping this comes through....

The Latin in the Register goes something like this....

Name of Groom
Address
Name of Parents...
Any Dispensations
Name of Priest
Name Witnesses
Address of Witness
Any other Info.

You will see that witnesss Dyonsus (Dennis Merin) was from the Co Kildare...
Now it may be that the surname has been mistranscribed but he could be relation...or vice versa ..that William (Cullen) Murin...has been mistranscribed...

You can see below Anne name that there is a notation...Alias "Murin"....
What ages were on the Cert for Charles and Ann...?

I may not be able to reply as I messed up while updating my profile.

There are no ages on the civil certificate, but Charles would have been (1823-1870) 47 and Anne (1839?-1870) about 31. I have all the census and death information.

Yes I had noticed the Kildare connection and started looking for all the Merins in Kildare.
I do think Cullen is an error for Anne's father (and possibly a marital error for her!! as the best fit marriage is to a Patrick aged 80 something.)

The civil cert. is clearer to read.

Now let's see if I can post this

Thanks.

Anne