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Hi Kay
We do know that his occupation was a Health Visitor (this was on my mother in laws marriage certificate)
Still waiting for info on birth certificate
Regards Michelle

Many thanks - His occupation on the birth cert would also be useful

Kayx

Hi. Gladys and Kathleen dont ring any bells. All very mysterious! Have spoken to S-in-law - she thinks Austin E Lawley was in Durham Light Infantry. She is also finding birth certs etc for address information
Regards Michelle

Hi His occupation is listed as Health Visitor on Edna's (my M-in-Law) marriage cert
Will find out addresses

Based on Hilda's age of 20 when she died in 1918 the Hilda in 1901 and 1911 must be be same person and her birth matches

Births Mar 1898 (>99%)
Hopkin Hilda Blything 4a 989

I would think that the Newark marriage could well be the Hilda Maud below,

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1889 (>99%)
Hopkin Hilda Maud E. Retford 7b 2

Austin Lawley seems completely illusive, I can see a possible candidate on the irish or english census and there appear to be no BMD records relatimg to him.

Any other detials about him would be very useful - ie his occupation on both Hilda's birth cert and her marriage and addresses at the time of Hilda's birth.

I have been searching again, I can only find one Hilda Hopkin on each of the 1901 and 1911 census

and I keep coming up with this marriage, this would only make her 15 when she married if it is her, the area seems wrong, and the spouses name isn't right but it might be worth getting this cert to see

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Hilda M Hopkin Name: Hilda M Hopkin
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's Surname: Bown
District: Newark
County: Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 824

spouse's name is

Name: John E Bown
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's Surname: Hopkin
District: Newark


it's a long shot but, I wonder if he became Austin Edward Lawley??

do the names Gladys and Kathleen mean anything?

hi

you might need to ring your brother in law again but

what are the addresses are on your mother in law's birth or Hilda's death certs

what is the occupation of Austin on either of the certs please

Hi. Just rang brother in law - he has copy of birth certificate and has name of Austin Lawley on it.

Hi. Dont have it on me but did see it yesterday at a family gathering. Just says Hilda - beloved wife of Austin Edward Lawley with date of birth and death (being 7/12/1918)

do you actually have Hilda's memoriam card?

what does it say?

Hi, Yes mother in law's marriage certificate named him as her father, have yet to see a copy of her birth cert.

I think it might be worth ordering Hilda's death cert or your Mother in Law's birth certs, if you don't actually have them, just to see if Austin is named on them, or if he was the informant and to check spelling.

Your Mother in Law's marriage cert may be useful too

Do the certificates confirm that her father's name as listed on the funeral card?

Hi, No copies with me but have details from them
Birth 13/9/1918 at Blean Canterbury
Marriage 16/10/1943 Bury St Edwards Registry Office

do you have the birth or marriage cert for your mother in law please?

Hi Sylvia
My mother in law always believed he went to Canada in the 1940's when she was about 20 years old

No haven't found marriage
The name came from my mother in law (now deceased) and on the memoriam card distributed at the funeral of Hilda which has been passed down thro the family
Regards Michelle

how did you get the name Austin Edward Lawley please?

have you found the marriage of Austin and Hilda?

1901 census
Farm House, Chediston, Suffolk
William Hopkin, head, 37, farmer, born Cambridgeshire, Soham
Sarah Ann Jane, wife, 40, born Suffolk, Cowlings
Hilda, dau, 3, born Chediston
Maria, dau, 1, born "

Brilliant - Thanks very much