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Description Name Olford, Richard Bate
Official Number: 120539
Date of Birth: 03 August 1866
Place of Birth: Fowey, Cornwall

Date 03 August 1866

HMS Pelorus
Displacement (loaded)

2,135t

Top Speed

18.5kts natural draft
20kts forced draft

Armour – deck

1.5in-2in

- gunshields

0.25in

- conning tower

3in

Length

313ft 6in

Armaments

Eight 4in quick firing guns
Eight 3pdr quick firing guns
Three machine guns
Two 18in above water torpedo tubes

Crew complement

224

Launched

15 December 1896

Completed

1897

Captains

Commander E. Stevenson (1915)

Sold for break up

1920


http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_HMS_Pelorus.html

Thanks Linsey, i have found out a bit more now.
Richard was in the Royal Navy and was in the Boer War, i have found his Regimental Number was 20539, he had a medal, the number of that was 4668, he was a Petty Officer 1st Class.
I see by his records he was on The Pelorus.
I am still looking for his death, i can never seem to find my way round The Nat Archives, but i will have a look again !!!!!!
Regards
Sally

I feel you need to find Naval records to see where he served.not sure if its Greenwich or National archives

Hi,
I am still trying to find the death of Richard Bate OLFORD, although the spelling could be ALFORD or even ALFERD i guess. !!!!!
I have the wedding cert in front of me and Richard's Fathers name was Henry.
Richard was 25 when he married in 1891,and born in Cornwall. He was a Sailor in the Royal Navy, by 1911 he had died, but i can't find a death entry that matches up, unless of course he just ended up somewhere else.
Any help would be great.
Many thanks
Sally

nudge

Hi to all who helped me with Richard.
I have his marriage cert in front of me so i now know his Father was a Henry, he was a farmer.
Richard was 25 years in Dec 1891on marriage cert - as was Mary Anne MAY his wife, Saint Austell Register Office was the venue, do Register Offices have any extra info?
Richard was a Sailor in the Royal Navy, so maybe he was going to sea faster than he thought or she was expecting - i will look into that. !!!!
Thanks again
Sally

A BIG THANKS to all who have sent info - i must say all this OLFORD / ALFORD is getting a bit confusing.
I am sending for the marriage cert for Richard and Mary Annie and then we should know where to go from there.!!!!!!!

Sally

Hi Catherine,

Thanks for the info, very kind of you.

I have been trying to find the death of Richard, was told it may be in Australia but as usual these stories get added to !!!!!

I will look at the spelling Alford.

Sally

Think this is Richard - spelling Alford in 1871

Name: Richard B Alford
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Father's name: Henry Alford
Gender: Male
Where born: Fowey, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Tywardreath
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Registration district: St Austell
Sub-registration district: Fowey
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Alford 46
Laird H Alford 14
Emma J Alford 9
John Alford 7
Richard B Alford 4
Mary A Alford 12


1881

Name: Richd. Bate Alford
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Father's name: Henry Alford
Mother's name: Jane Alford
Gender: Male
Where born: Fowey, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Tywardreath
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address: Penpoll
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Farm Servant (Ag Lab)

Registration district: St Austell
Sub-registration district: Fowey
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Alford 57
Jane Alford 48
George Alford 25
Richd. Bate Alford 14
Mary Anna Alford 12
Eliza Anne Alford 10
Wm. Thos. Alford 5

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Regards

Catherine

I think you need to buy the marriage or birth cert to see what his father's name was,

Thanks Lindsay,

Oh well the names on the death info are Charles E and Elizabeth, so it looks like poor Richard died in Australia.
I wonder if there is any more info available.

Sally

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Number Last Name Given Name(s) Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District Purchase Certificate
7680/1904 OLFORD RICHARD father CHARLES E motherELIZABETH

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Hi,

I have been looking - and have found a death for a Richard OLFORD in New South Wales in 1904.
If this is the correct Richard can we find out any more info about deaths in Australia?

Thanks
Sally

Thanks again RutlandBelle !!!!

Those naughty people who wrote down the info - didn't they know we were going to come along and have trouble !!!!!!!

Sally

1871 mistranscribed it is Olford on the image

Name: Richard B Alford
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Father's name: Henry Alford
Gender: Male
Where born: Fowey, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Tywardreath
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Registration district: St Austell
Sub-registration district: Fowey
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Alford 46
Laird H Alford 14
Emma J Alford 9
John Alford 7
Richard B Alford 4
Mary A Alford 12

A BIG THANK YOU

Lindsey - rootgatherer - RutlandBelle and Vera.

Good Lord you must have all been waiting for my question !!!!!!!!

That will give me something to go at !!!!

Regards
Sally

OLFORD, Mary Annie Head Widow F 42 1869 Housekeeper Cornwall Tywardreath VIEW
OLFORD, Kathleen Emma Lilian Daughter Single F 19 1892 Assistant In The Drapery Cornwall St Blazey Gate VIEW
OLFORD, Violet Annie Daughter Single F 15 1896 At Home Cornwall St Blazey Gate VIEW
OLFORD, Ivy Gwendoline Daughter F 13 1898 Cornwall St Blazey Gate VIEW
OLFORD, Harry Victor Son M 9 1902 School Cornwall Tywardreath VIEW
MAY, Mary Ann Mother Widow F 76 1835 St Winnow Lostwithiel VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
13746 Reference:
RG14PN13746 RG78PN813 RD295 SD1 ED6 SN96

Registration District:
St Austell Sub District:
Fowey Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Tywardreath

Address:
St Andrews Road Tywardreath

Mary is now a widow

1911 census transcription details for: St Andrews Road Tywardreath

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN13746 RG78PN813 RD295 SD1 ED6 SN96


Reg. District: St Austell Sub District: Fowey
Parish: Tywardreath Enum. District: 6

Address: St Andrews Road Tywardreath
County: Cornwall


Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

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OLFORD, Mary Annie Head Widow F 42 1869 Housekeeper Cornwall Tywardreath

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OLFORD, Kathleen Emma Lilian Daughter Single F 19 1892 Assistant In The Drapery Cornwall St Blazey Gate

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OLFORD, Violet Annie Daughter Single F 15 1896 At Home Cornwall St Blazey Gate

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OLFORD, Ivy Gwendoline Daughter F 13 1898 Cornwall St Blazey Gate

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OLFORD, Harry Victor Son M 9 1902 School Cornwall Tywardreath

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MAY, Mary Ann Mother Widow F 76 1835 St Winnow Lostwithiel

1911 ???


OLFORD, Mary Annie Head Widow F 42 1869 Housekeeper Cornwall Tywardreath VIEW
OLFORD, Kathleen Emma Lilian Daughter Single F 19 1892 Assistant In The Drapery Cornwall St Blazey Gate VIEW
OLFORD, Violet Annie Daughter Single F 15 1896 At Home Cornwall St Blazey Gate VIEW
OLFORD, Ivy Gwendoline Daughter F 13 1898 Cornwall St Blazey Gate VIEW
OLFORD, Harry Victor Son M 9 1902 School Cornwall Tywardreath VIEW
MAY, Mary Ann Mother Widow F 76 1835 St Winnow Lostwithiel VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
13746 Reference:
RG14PN13746 RG78PN813 RD295 SD1 ED6 SN96

Registration District:
St Austell Sub District:
Fowey Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Tywardreath

Address:
St Andrews Road Tywardreath County:
Cornwall


Regards Vera