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Ozibird

Ozibird Report 8 Nov 2010 21:41

It's a thought, Colin, but I don't believe John would be 20 years out.

1841 England Census
Name: John Mills
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: St Mary Newington
Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address: Union Rd

Occupation: Traveller

Registration district: St Mary Newington
Sub-registration district: Trinity
Household Members: Name Age
John Mills 35
Jane Mills 30
Mary Mills 1

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 8 Nov 2010 21:46

And he lives longer than 1866. So either we have a totally different family or that tree has just taken baptism & death records and believe they are for the same person.

1871 England Census
Name: John Mills
Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Janes Mills
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 49 Lorimore Rd

Occupation: Commercial Traveller Gloves

Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth
Household Members: Name Age
John Mills 65
Janes Mills 60
Annie S Mills 26
Frederick G Mills 24
John Mills 19
Frank Mills 16

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 8 Nov 2010 21:51

They obviously had a bulk baptism, but it still doesn't account for the 20 years difference. You would know at 95 that you don't look or feel like a 75 year old. Or at 35 whether you are really 55 as in 1841.

1881 England Census
Name: John Mills
Age: 75
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane S. Mills
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Newington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 49 Lorrimore Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Commercial Traveller
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth
Household Members: Name Age
John Mills 75
Jane S. Mills 69
Anne E. Mills 36
Frederick G. Mills 33
John Mills 28

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 8 Nov 2010 21:59

The Mills Family Tree says:-


Parents Solomon Mills and Mary Squibb


John Mills

Birth
1788
Fawkham Green, Kent, UK


Marriage
1811
11 Nov
Age: 23
Charlotte King
Erith, Kent, , England


Death
1865
Dartford, Kent, , England



and he's an Ag Lab




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 8 Nov 2010 22:00

It is very possible that John Mills b. 1788 ha just been added to the tree


and that John Mills baptized 1805 is truly Solomon andMary's child!



sylvia

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 8 Nov 2010 22:01

Hmmmm. We need Carol back again.

Also this family doesn't seem to end up at Swanley as she suggests.

Ozi

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 8 Nov 2010 22:16

I've noticed that Ozi


I wonder if we've been sidetracked???



sylvia

Carol

Carol Report 8 Nov 2010 22:24

Thankyou all for your kind help i will try and sort it all out .I have checked with my mother and solomon was born and died in Tonbridge kent .our line comes from there son john.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 8 Nov 2010 22:57

What about son, John? Is he born in Tonbridge? When?

Does he end up at Swanley?

Ozi

Carol

Carol Report 8 Nov 2010 23:05

yes ive just rang mum and she said as far as she can remember he did ,Also her great grandfather charles and her grandfather henry and my grandmother lilian

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 8 Nov 2010 23:07

Do they all have the surname Mills and what dates are we looking at?

Ozi

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 8 Nov 2010 23:11

This might be them.

1881 England Census
Name: Henry Mills
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's name: Charles Mills
Mother's name: Helen Mills
Gender: Male
Where born: Sutton At Hone, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Sutton At Hone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: Main Street, Swanley <<<<<

Occupation: Labourer (Ag)

Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Dartford
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Mills 54 - Labourer (Ag)
Helen Mills 53
Edward Mills 29 - Labourer (Ag)
Henry Mills 19
Martha Mills 13 - Scholar
Charlotte Mills 10 - Scholar

All born Sutton at Hone.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 8 Nov 2010 23:17

1861 England Census
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Helen Mills
Gender: Male
Where born: Sutton At Hone, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Sutton At Hone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: Swanley St

Occupation: Ag lab

Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Dartford
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Mills 34
Helen Mills 33
Edward Mills 10
Charles Mills 6

Living next to this family:
Thomas Mills Sarah abt 1806 Kingsdown, Kent, England Head Sutton At Hone, Kent
Sarah Mills Thomas abt 1809 Ash, Kent, England Wife Sutton At Hone, Kent
Richard Mills Thomas, Sarah abt 1839 Ash, Kent, England Son Sutton At Hone, Kent
Daniel Mills Thomas, Sarah abt 1844 Sutton At Hone, Kent, England Son Sutton At Hone, Kent
Peter Mills Thomas, Sarah abt 1847 Sutton At Hone, Kent, England Son Sutton At Hone, Kent
Henry Mills Thomas, Sarah abt 1851 Sutton At Hone, Kent, England Son Sutton At Hone, Kent

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 8 Nov 2010 23:24

1891 England Census
Name: Henry Mills
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emily Mills
Gender: Male
Where born: Swanley, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Sutton At Hone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Swanley
Town: Swanley Village
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: Church Cot, Swanley Village.

Occupation: Labourer

Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Dartford
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Mills 29
Emily Mills 23
Ellen P Mills 6/12



Marriages Sep 1889
GIBBS Emily Dartford 2a 806
Mills Henry Dartford 2a 806


Births Sep 1890
Mills Ellen Phoebe Dartford 2a 492

Carol

Carol Report 8 Nov 2010 23:26

Thankyou so much for your help charles 8 feb 1827 his son Henry was born 1862 and nan 1903 they did lived in main street nan was born in church cottages swanley villagesorry charles wife was helen hood.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 8 Nov 2010 23:30

OK, so it looks like we are on the right track now.

I'll follow Charles back.

Ozi

Carol

Carol Report 8 Nov 2010 23:33

thankyou so much for your kind help

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 8 Nov 2010 23:39

Marriages Jun 1850
ALLEN Margaret Dartford 5 163
ALLEN William Whitten Dartford 5 163
Allen William Whitton Dartford 5 163
HOOD Helen Dartford 5 163 <<<<<
Mills Charles Dartford 5 163 <<<<<
Rowlatt Claudius Robert Dartford 5 163
Trimmer Mary Dartford 5 163

The other people also got married in the Dartford district in that quarter and are recorded on the same page.

Carol

Carol Report 8 Nov 2010 23:42

thats them thankyou ill try and get a certificate for them

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 8 Nov 2010 23:52

Searching for them in 1841 and 1851, but no luck as yet.

I have to go out now. I'll check back later.

Ozi