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It is possible to have a kid at 34/35 not impossible

nudge

I didn't say it was impossible.....did I?

Suggest you wait for 1911 census

No you didnt did you maybe you just implied

I don't 'imply' - if I have something to say I say it clearly and unambiguously

I have noticed ......................

I agree with Flick, this really is a case of waiting for the 1911 census as there isn't an Elizabeth Lockhart in 1901 living in the Greater Glasgow area that is employed as a Fish Curer.

Thanks all for your help Some more than others She was born in 1870 Shotts

Hello Christine :) I presume she didn't die in Scotland or you cannot find the death? Scottish death certificates can also provide the parents names and occupations which may confirm the names you have are correct or not.

Good luck :)

So actually lockhart is her married name?

Did it say on the birth certificate that she was married to or widow of John Lockhart who was not the father of the child?

1891

Name: Elizabeth Lockhart
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : John Lockhart
Gender: Female
Where born: Shott, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 119 Kidstone St
Occupation: Sewing Machinist
ED: 36
Household schedule number: 26
Line: 23
Roll: CSSCT1891_286
Household Members: Name Age
John Lockhart 26 Hammerman, b. Fauldhouse, Linlithgow
Elizabeth Lockhart 21

Rootgatherer
I dont have her Birth Cert so dont know if she was a widow

Frank06
I found the Birth from a Poor Relief App that she had made

Thanks All

No marriage for E Lockhart /J Marshall on SP. Death of Elizabeth Lockhar/Marshal/Roche on SP (birth circa 1876). Should be able to find out parents names if you view, and see if it is the right one, since you're not sure of the dob.

8 1932 MARSHALL ELIZABETH LOCKHART ROCHE F 61 HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/15 0239

No marriage on SP for Elizabeth Lockhart to Roche either.

No Elizabeth Lockhart on any of the censuses with father Michael and mother Ann/Annie.

All Elizabeth Lockhart's born in Glasgow just before and just after 1869.

No Year Surname Forename Sex District City/
County/
MR GROS
Data Image Extract
1 1865 LOCKHART ELIZABETH F ANDERSTON GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/08 0055
2 1867 LOCKHART ELIZABETH F GLASGOW CENTRAL DISTRICT GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/01 0135
3 1875 LOCKHART ELIZABETH F BLACKFRIARS GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/05 1123
4 1875 LOCKHART ELIZABETH F BLYTHSWOOD GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/07 1076
5 1877 LOCKHART ELIZABETH F MARYHILL GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 622/01 0267
6 1877 LOCKHART ELIZABETH F KINNING PARK GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/14 0505
7 1870 LOCKHART ELIZABETH SIMPS F BLYTHSWOOD GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/06 0330
8 1870 LOCKHART ELIZABETH TODD F HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/10 2510
9 1870 LOCKHART FANNY ELIZABETH F PARTICK GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 646/03 0728
10 1878 LOCKHART SARAH ELIZABETH F DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0714

This is assuming it is Glasgow if anywhere else in Scotland, SP the only place to find.

Catherine

Christine what date was the Poor Relief application please?

The application would have given her marital status.

There is no marriage showing on Scotlandspeople for her parents.

It might be worth your while to follow this one up? You could look on SP for the original image of the census to see if it has been mistranscribed.

1871

Name: Elizabeth Lockerson
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relationship: Daughter
Father's name: Michael Lockerton
Mother's name: Mary Anne Lockerton
Gender: Female
Where born: Shotts, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 651/2
Registration district: New Monkland Landward
Civil Parish: New Monkland
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Greenfairs East Row
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 31
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1871_147
Household Members: Name Age
Michael Lockerton 40 b. Ireland, Iron Stone Miner
Mary Anne Lockerton 30 b. Airdrie
John Lockerton 12 son, b. Crofthead, Linlithgowshire
Anne Lockerton 19 Daughter, b. Bathgate, Linlithgowshire
Catherine Lockerton 3 b. Crofthead, Linlithgowshire
Elizabeth Lockerson 1


Looking at the ages of the children, it could be a second marriage for Michael.

1851???

Name: Michael Lockerdy
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Parish Number: 655
Civil Parish: Shotts
Town: Salsburgh
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Apartt 2
Occupation: Tunnel Labourer
ED: 7
Page: 19 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 50
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1851_172
Household Members: Name Age
Jean Donaldson 36
Mary M Donaldson 12
Margaret Donaldson 10
Helen Donaldson 7
Gowans Donaldson 5
John Dove 1
Mary Dove 1
Michael Diamond 50
James Diamond 21
Hugh Kelly 28
Michael McGowans 36
John Flinns 35
Joseph Wilson 27
Hugh Wilson 25
John Mars Skimming 20
Michael Lockerdy 22

Now found the Roche marriage on SP

3 1890 ROCHE MICHAEL LOCKHART LIZZIE HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/11 010

Catherine

tnks all

1861 - Michael and his wife are living in West Lothai but for some reason this site won't let me post the census.

In 1861 his wife's birthplace is Ireland.

Thanks Rootgaterer On the 1861 Census By his wife do you mean Eliz Lockhart ? coz I dnt have her born till 1870 ( Poor Relief App )
Totally confusing

Christine, I was referring to Elizabeth's parents in 1861. It looks like (if the census are correct) that her mother's name was actually Mary Ann. I have posted what looks like her with her parents in 1871 but was looking for her parents on earlier census records.

ndg