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MeJoy75
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2 Dec 2010 12:05 |
Hi all,
Trying to find any details on the family of Peter Dinner c1826, father Thomas miner, mother Alice, residence Boyton. I have checked the online cornwall opc, unable to find a marriage of Thomas & Alice.
Peter immigrated to Australia onboard the Wellesley, arriving in Australia September 1860.
I have all his details in Australia.
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Christina
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2 Dec 2010 12:11 |
Parish Records Collection - marriage Groom's forenames: Thomas Groom's forenames signed: Groom's forenames BT: Groom's surname: DINNER Groom's surname signed: Groom's surname BT: Date: 12 Jul 1813 Bride's forenames: Alice Bride's forenames signed: Bride's forenames BT: Bride's surname: DAYMAN Bride's surname alias: Bride's surname signed: Bride's surname BT: Parish: Launcells County: Cornwall
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Christina
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2 Dec 2010 12:14 |
family search has Alice as Hayman not Dayman! Christina
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MeJoy75
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2 Dec 2010 12:25 |
Thanks, On his death record in Australia it is listed as Haman, so probably Hayman
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2 Dec 2010 13:25 |
Just noticed the Alice remarried James Honey Truro, 26 June 1838, can you tell me who is with them on the 1841 and 1851 Census.
I found found a death of Thomas 1826 aged 45 years, not sure if the right Thomas.
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Julcoe
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3 Dec 2010 02:34 |
This was the only Alice & James of 'proper' age that I could find ???????
1841 England Census about Alice Honey Name: Alice Honey Age: 55 Estimated birth year: abt 1786 Gender: Female Civil Parish: Northam Hundred: Shebbear County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: ?? Crop St. Registration district: Bideford Sub-registration district: Northam Household Members: Name Age James Honey 65 .. Ag lab .. born in county Alice Honey 55 .. not born in county
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Julcoe
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3 Dec 2010 02:38 |
And this death..... Northam is just out of Bideford, so possibly the same registration district
Deaths Sep 1844 (>99%) HONEY Alice Bideford 10 43
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Julcoe
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3 Dec 2010 03:02 |
Could Peter have been married before he left England ??
The only Peter Dinner that I can find on the 1851 census is married to a "Charlotte".
Charlotte is not with her spouse on any other census but is listed as married on the 1861 & 1871 census and a widow on the 1881 census.
However I can not find a marriage between a peter Dinner and a Charlotte, nor a marriage for a Charlotte to any 'Dinner' male ???
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SylviaInCanada
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3 Dec 2010 03:53 |
from www.beta.familysearch.org
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Peter Dinner residence: Boyton, Cornwall, England parents: Thomas Dinner, Alice record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: Peter Dinner gender: Male baptism/christening date: 20 Aug 1826 baptism/christening place: Boyton, Cornwall, England father's name: Thomas Dinner mother's name: Alice indexing project (batch) number: I02346-4 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1545323
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SylviaInCanada
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3 Dec 2010 03:54 |
Peter in 1841 ..... it IS Dinner on the image. I have sent in a name change
1841 Census
Name: Peter Dennin Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Gender: Male Where born: Cornwall, England Civil Parish: Moorwinstow Hundred: Stratton County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Registration district: Stratton Sub-registration district: Kilkhampton
John Brimacombe 45 Farmer Elizabeth Brimacombe 43 William Brimacombe 20 Charles Brimacombe 18 Elizabeth Brimacombe 16 Joanna Brimacombe 14 Grace Brimacombe 11 Mary Brimacombe 5 James Barry 25 Peter Dennin 15 Male Servant Thomas Brook 15 Faney Passa 16
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3 Dec 2010 04:04 |
I think this is the same Peter and Charlotte Dinner that Julcoe found on the 1851 Census .......... at the baptism of a child
Peter Dinner spouse: Charlotte record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: Eadith Dinner gender: Female baptism/christening date: 03 Feb 1856 baptism/christening place: SAINT ERME,CORNWALL,ENGLAND birth date: 22 Oct 1855 father's name: Peter Dinner mother's name: Charlotte indexing project (batch) number: P02028-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 246773
1851 Census
Name: Peter Dinner Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Charlotte Dinner Gender: M (Male) Where born: Moorwinstow, Cornwall, England Civil Parish: St Erme County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Registration district: Truro Sub-registration district: St Clement
Peter Dinner 24 Lead Miner Charlotte Dinner 25 b.ca 1825, St Erme, Cornwall
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3 Dec 2010 04:19 |
1861 Census
Name: Charlotte Dinner Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1825 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: St Erme, Cornwall, England Civil Parish: Ladock County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Registration district: Truro Sub-registration district: Probus Richard F Wise 46 Rector of Ladock Mary A H Wise 45 Richard Wise 77 Mary A Wise 82 Jane Newt 39 Harriet A Kemp 22 Charlotte Dinner 36 Married, House Maid
Address:- Rectory, Ladock
1871 Census
Name: Charlotte Dinner Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: St Erme, Cornwall, England Civil Parish: St Tudy County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Registration district: Bodmin Sub-registration district: St Mabyn Elizabeth Ann Magor 66 Landowner J Emily Magor 32 Ellen Grills 28 Charlotte Dinner 45 Married, Nurse Maria Menncer 32 Anny G Williams 21 Kate Curtis 18 Thomas Lalinon 52
Address:- Lemellin
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1881 Census
Name: Scharlot Dinner Age: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Relation: Aunt Gender: Female Where born: St Erme, Cornwall, England Civil Parish: Merther County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street address: Namprathic Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower) Occupation: Nurse Registration district: Truro Sub-registration district: Probus
Richard Truscott 38 Ag Lab Ellen Truscott 33 William Truscott 4 Samuel H. Truscott 2 Jabes Truscott Scharlot Dinner 54
1891 Census
Name: Charlotte Dinner Age: 65 Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Relation: Aunt Gender: Female Where born: Merther, Cornwall, England Civil Parish: Newlyn County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Registration district: St Columb Sub-registration district: Newlyn
Richard Truscott 48 Ag Lab Ellen Truscott 44 b. St Erme William S Truscott 14 Samuel J H Truscott 12 Jabez Truscott 10 George Truscott 8 Wallace Truscott 5 Charlotte Dinner 65 Married, Living on her own means
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Deaths Jun 1900 (>99%) Dinner Charlotte 75 St. Columb 5c 63
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Marriages Mar 1874 (>99%) SEARLE Ellen Truro 5c 255 SEARLE Ellen Truro 5c 255 Truscott Richard Truro 5c 255
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3 Dec 2010 04:32 |
This looks like that child on the baptism record
Births Dec 1855 (>99%) Dinner Edith Redruth 5c 249
Deaths Jun 1856 (>99%) Dinner Edith Truro 5c 1_8
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3 Dec 2010 04:37 |
just to confirm Hayman .... Thomas and Alice marriage from beta.familysearch.org
Thomas Dinner spouse: Alice Hayman marriage: 12 Jul 1813 — Launcells, Cornwall, England record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973 groom's name: Thomas Dinner bride's name: Alice Hayman marriage date: 12 Jul 1813 marriage place: Launcells,Cornwall,England indexing project (batch) number: M05338-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 916948
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3 Dec 2010 04:47 |
James Honey and Alice marriage from beta.familysearch.org
James Honey England Marriages, 1538–1973 parents: James Honey spouse: Alice Dinner marriage: 25 Jun 1838 — Truro, Cornwall, England record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973 groom's name: James Honey bride's name: Alice Dinner marriage date: 25 Jun 1838 marriage place: Truro, Cornwall, England groom's father's name: James Honey bride's father's name: Richard Gayman indexing project (batch) number: I02408-1 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1596279
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3 Dec 2010 04:48 |
I have still not found a marriage for Peter and Charlotte!
but it does look suspiciously as though it is your Peter who married Charlotte, and then left her behind when going to Australia
EDIT:- although there is this death of a peter Dinner
Deaths Sep 1856 (>99%) DINNER Peter Launceston 5c 16
Launceston is the registration district that includes Boyton
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MeJoy75
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3 Dec 2010 07:23 |
Thanks to everyone who has replied during the last 12 hours, sorry I haven't been back to thread been out all day.
Peter married in 1864 and died in 1895 (both Aust). If it is indeed is marriage to Charlotte, he is still alive in 1881!!
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MeJoy75
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3 Dec 2010 08:11 |
Sylvia and Julcoe,
Just read all thread replies, looks like Charlotte got a bit confused when filling out the 1881 and 1891 Census - 1881 she is a widower, 1891 she is married.
I think I will get his marriage certificate to see if it says anything about another marriage & family.
Obviously this happened quite a lot, his wife's 1st husband, brother & father immigrated, whilst his mother & sisters remained in England!!
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SylviaInCanada
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4 Dec 2010 01:33 |
Mel
I posted that death of a Peter Dinner in Launceston in 1856 as a warning that it looks as though there were TWO Peter Dinners living in the same area at approximately the same time
.................. and so which one was Charlotte married to?
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MeJoy75
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4 Dec 2010 02:13 |
Sylvia,
I haven't been able to find a marriage, but, if there was a marriage I would probably go with my Peter, only because on the Census Charlotte has listed herself as being married.
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