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Hello Mark,

I have been away for Christmas. I hope you had a good one.

No, we don't have any matches. I became intrigued and lent a hand.

Ozi

Not sure but it would seem that at least two generations of Tennant brothers went to the US, now I just need to find out what happened to the rest of them, thanks for your help, has been a fascinating little progression. Do we have any matches? Mark.

Well done. That's solved that little mystery. I wonder if John died in the US and Louisa was sent back to grandparents.

Ozi

PS found details that have to be Louisa;

Groom's Name: Thomas Moore
Groom's Birth Date: 1854
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 24
Bride's Name: Louisa Tennant
Bride's Birth Date: 1856
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 22
Marriage Date: 24 Jul 1878
Marriage Place: Hulme (Near Manchester), Lancashire, England
Groom's Father's Name: Daniel Moore
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: John Aniley Tennant
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04895-1
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 2113139
Reference Number: 440

must have gone between 1842 and 1854/5 realistically, head buzzing now but tired. Need to carry on tomorrow. Thanks for your help, really appreciated. Mark.

Marriages Mar 1842
BOARDMAN Henry Chorlton 20 107
TAYLOR Elizabeth Chorlton 20 107
TENNANT Richard Chorlton 20 107
THOMPSON Agnes Diana Chorlton 20 107 <<<<<<<<<<

I found it earlier & have been looking for them. I wonder when they went to the US? Fits with the 1880 US census.

Also found this:

name: Richard Tennant
event type: Baptism
christening date: 15 Oct 1843
christening place: Manchester, Lancashire
father's name: Richard Tennant
mother's name: Agnes Tennant
record set: RG4_2118

have found a richard tennant, maybewalton's brother on the 1880 us Census with both him and his wife agnes (and parents) all born in England. The birth year 1815 fits in too. Will look for their marriage. am going off at a tangent too lol but is interesting

Yes, I'm wondering that as I can't find him on any census, or a death.

However I've found Tennants with a Wakefield/Chorlton connection in your family that I'm following, including ones with the name Clementina. I think you can be fairly sure of that baptism that Annette found.

Ozi

Louisa must have been the daughter of either John, Samuel, James or Richard, the brothers of Walton. Looks like two generations of the family went to or stayed in America. I am presuming Richard c1791 died before 1851 being only on the 1841 census though am starting to wonder if he spent time in the US too....................

Fantastic, you are a star! I know Walton spent time in the USA which is probably why he disappears from some census. I got that from an account of Arthur his son from an Illinois publication;

(Was for Ella Tennant's mums obituary - wrongly shows Walton as Walter but could have been a nickname I guess)

Mrs. Weld became the mother of three children: Nellie, who died at the age of fifteen months; Fannie, who lives with her mother; and Ella May, wife of Arthur G. Tennant, who is a clerk in the employ of the Illinois Central Railroad at Clinton. He was born in Lancastershire, England, and is a son of Walter and Eliza (Bradbury) Tennant. His father lived for some years in America, but died in England, and his mother, who is a native of Yorkshire, now makes her home in Chicago. They had nine children, of whom seven are still living. To Arthur G. Tennant and wife have been born two children: William Weld and Fannie Evelyn. They have a fine large residence on the corner of North Jackson avenue and West Johnson street, Clinton, which was erected by Mr. Tennant at a cost of thirty-five hundred dollars, and with them resides Mrs. Weld, who now rents her home in that city. She still owns the farm on one hundred and eight-six acres of highly developed land in Texas township, left to her by Mr. Weld, which she rents. In addition to this she owns one hundred acres near Maroa, which is also rented. These farms are well-improved, there being good two-story residences and new barns upon both.

She's with Mary & Eliza in 1871.

1871 England Census
Name: Louisa Tennant
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: United States
Civil Parish: Chorlton On Medlock
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 9 Clifford St [In 1861 they're at 23 Clifford St. I know in the mid 1800s a lot of street numbering was formalized in London. Perhaps that's so of Manchester as well, and they're still living in the same house.]

Occupation: House Assistant

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Chorlton upon Medlock
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza C Tennant 30 - Dressmaker
Mary Tennant 82 - Annuitant
Louisa Tennant 14
William C Hardy 46 - lodger
Enock Gerald 31 - lodger

hmmm very interesting, will have a look........

Has this child any close connection to Walton? She is living/staying with another two siblings of Walton's.

1861 England Census
Name: Louisa Tennant
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: United States <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Chorlton Upon Medlock
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Chorlton upon Medlock
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen H Tennant 35
John A Tennant 34 - widowed
Louisa Tennant 5

Sorry, my slip-up. Thought you meant Mary, wife of Richard, went to Chicago.

"I still cannot get concrete evidence that links Richard and Mary as parents of Walton" If you have followed the census for this family, why do you doubt Walton's parentage? You have found his baptism, and his family in 1841.

" I too thought that Mary might have been born in Broughton in Furness" - that is what is recorded for her on the 1861 census when she is living with daughters, Ann & Eliza. Update: also 1871.

Hi Ozibird, Walton died around 1886 in Manchester and as far as I can gather, his son Richard went to Chicago in 1887 with Walton's widow Eliza following with other children in 1887/88. I can only confirm Charles Thomas Tennant that stayed as he was my great great grandfather. Some reportedly made money but lost it in the wall st. crash. Walton & Eliza's son Arthur married into the famous Weld family (marrying Ella Mae) and living in De Witt, Clinton, Illinois. I have photos of Eliza and her sons taken at a chicago photographers. I have so much info it is so frustrating not be able to progress beyond Richard and Mary. It looks like Richard, John, Arthur, Walter & william (married De Lora Maclamore from Kentucky) all went to USA with only CT staying in Horwich. Mark.

OK, going off on a tangent.

This bloke is a son of Richard & Clementina too. He's also in Chorlton.

Askham Eyre Tennant
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 04 Oct 1800
residence: York, England
parents: Richard Tennant, Clementina Eyre

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Askham Eyre Tennant
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 20 Oct 1803
baptism/christening place: SAINT JOHN, WAKEFIELD, YORK, ENGLAND
birth date: 04 Oct 1800
father's name: Richard Tennant
mother's name: Clementina Eyre
indexing project (batch) number: P00498-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 98541

Marriages Mar 1848
BALE Sarah Chorlton 20 121
Hughes Martha Chorlton 20 121
JOHNSON Alice Chorlton 20 121
MOSLEY William Chorlton 20 121
Shaw William Chorlton 20 121
TENNANT Askham Eyre Chorlton 20 121 <<<<<<<<<<<<<

I'm going to go looking for him. Ozi


Update: No, looks as if Chorlton bloke is a younger relation.

1841 England Census
Name: Askem Tenant
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Manchester
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Shudehill

Occupation: Surgeon's App

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Market Street
Household Members: Name Age
Askem Tenant 15
Maria Fisher 20 - F.S.
Sophian Thompson 13 - F.S.

Mark when did the family go to Chicago? Which ones stayed in England?

Just trying to work backwards.

Ozi

The sons are not triplets. They were just baptised together. 1841 census has them as different ages.

Ozi



Update: For reference.

1841 England Census
Name: Walton Tennant
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
Hundred: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Rusholme Road

Occupation:

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Chorlton upon Medlock
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Tennant 50 - Cl[erk]; not born in county.
Mary Tennant 50
Richard Tennant 25 - Machinist
Ann Tennant 20
Mary A Tennant 20
Elizabeth Tennant 20
Ellen H Tennant 15
John A Tennant 15 - Machinist Ap
Samuel Tennant 13
Walton Tennant 11
James Tennant 8

Tennant, Skipton - 1851 Richard is a sawyer from Hawes Yorkshire.

PS found this record at Lancashire online parish clerks;

Marriage: 5 Jan 1854 St Bartholomew, Salford, Lancashire, England
Samuel Nelson Tennant - 26 Mechanic Bachelor of Union St Salford
Hannah Entwisle - 26 Spinster of Lower Broughton Manchester
Groom's Father: Richard Tennant, Book keeper
Bride's Father: William Entwisle, Manufacturer
Witness: James Kenyon; Mary Kenyon
Married by Registrar's Cert by: James Moore
Register: Marriages 1846 - 1869, Page 26, Entry 52
Source: LDS Film 1786463

(and mean't John, Samuel & James previously)