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Thank you both Mike and Janey for your help. I will check into my grandfather being Charles Dunn, thats something i had'nt considered !.I'm still searching for George's and Louisa's death certs , they must be out there somewhere !!! Michael

Charles C H Dunn

I realised that the area for Charles's birth didn't match the census info but I also remember one of my ancestors being included in the family list but was infact a nephew being brought up by his aunt and uncle as their own.

Michael everything that is offered up for you is not gospel, it's there for you to check out.

Again, Michael -----

It just doesn't help for posters to have info if we don't have it.

You had the censuses, we didn't.

You had the birth info, we didn't.

Mike thought that since no marriage could be found, they might not have been married at all (which is how it's looking), and they might have married after the first children were born, so the first children might have been registered as Dunn.

If youu had said at the outset that you had the children's birth certificates, and given the registration details, no one would have been trying to figure these things out.

It's still possible that if the parents weren't married, Charles, your gr-grfather, might have been registered as Dunn, and that birth that Mike suggested might just be worth investigating.

Thanks for all your help so far. I have both Emily's and Clifford birth certs and on these it has fathers name as George Arthur Green and Mother as Louisa Green ( maiden name Dunn). The census info posted is that which i have already. What was the reason for saying only Clifford being registered as Green. I have not managed to locate a cert for Charles ( my g/father) yet !. Michael

It just doesn't help for posters to have info if we don't have it.


1871

George Green 25 - born Southwark
Louisa Green 19 - born Chelsea
Emily Green 3 Months - born Blackley

Civil Parish: Blackley
County/Island: Lancashire
Registration district: Manchester


possibly though

Births Mar 1871
Green Emily Manchester 8d 399


I don't think Blandford is a good match for Charles C H Green shown in the 1881 as born in Chelsea.


Assuming that Michael has the name Louisa Dunn from some authoritative source (a child's birth certificate?):

Births Jun 1851
Dunn Louisa Chelsea 3 71

Don't see her in the 1861 census.

Ditto for the middle name Arthur for George Green -- source?

The only birth in the right area around the right time:

Births Sep 1848
Green George St Saviour Southwark 4 494

and the only birth for the full name around the right time:

Births Dec 1848
GREEN George Arthur Shoreditch 2 _93

(with no guarantee the birth would have been registered, of course)

Posted by Mike in Michael's duplicate thread (Michael, we do *not* post one thread about someone's marriage, one thread about their death -- did you read the instructions at all before posting?):

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/green/thread/1251639


For reference

Household:1881

George GREEN Hd M Male 32 Southwark, Surrey, England Surgical Inst Maker
Louisa GREEN Wife M Female 29 Chelsea, Middlesex, England Laundress
Emily GREEN Daur Female 10 Blakeley, Lancashire, England Scholar
Chas.C.H. GREEN Son Male 6 Chelsea, Middlesex, England Scholar
Clifford GREEN Son Male 1 Westminster, Middlesex, England

Dwelling 47 Up Marylebone St
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
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You might find that only Clifford was registered as Green

Births Jun 1876
Dunn Charles Charlton H - Blandford 5a 265

Births Dec 1879
Green Clifford - St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 469

What evidence have you that he was George Arthur Green, not George Green?
Thanks

Have copied this over:
I HAVE TRIED WITHOUT SUCCESS TO LOCATE A MARRAIGE CERT FOR MY GREAT GRANDPARENTS . CAN ANYBODY HELP PLEASE. GEORGE ARTHUR GREEN B 1848 AND LOUISA DUNN B1852 WERE BOTH BORN IN LONDON. THEIR FIRST CHILD EMILY WAS BORN IN JAN 1871 AT BLACKLEY nr MANCHESTER. I HAVE THEIR CENSUS RETURNS FOR1871 1881 1891 AND 1901 BUT CANNOT FIND THEM IN1911. ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED MICHAEL

This family?:
1901 England Census
George Green
Age: 53 Estimated birth year: abt 1848 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Louisa Green Gender: Male Where born: Westminster, London, England Civil Parish: Hanwell Ecclesiastical parish: Hanwell St Mary Town: Hanwell County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Brentford Sub-registration district: Acton ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Household schedule number: 156

George Green 53
Louisa Green 49
Clifford Green 21
Herbert Green 19
Fred Green 16
Augustus Green 14
Rose Green 8
Albert Green 7
Charles Green 26
Annie Green 26
Ellen Green 18 Months

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1206; Folio: 102; Page: 28.

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George A Green
Death Registration Month/Year: 1923
Age at death (estimated): 74
Registration district: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 14

THANKS MIKE.. HE WAS BORN 1848 , I KNOW HE WAS LIVING IN CAMDEN IN1917 , BUT I CAN'T FIND ANY SIGN OF HIS DEATH AT ALL. MICHAEL

THANKS MIKE.. HE WAS BORN 1848 , I KNOW HE WAS LIVING IN CAMDEN IN1917 , BUT I CAN'T FIND ANY SIGN OF HIS DEATH AT ALL. MICHAEL

Michael, you can search for the details on FreeBMD - http://www.freebmd.org.uk

Only one listed for that quarter but age way out

Deaths Mar 1927
Green George A - 42 - Islington 1b 452

CAN ANYBODY HELP ME PLEASE, IF THEY HAVE ACCESS TO DEATH REGISTERS . COULD I HAVE THE DETAILS REQUIRED TO OBTAIN DEATH CERTS FOR GEORGE ARTHUR GREEN WHO WAS BURIED 20-1-1927 AT ISLINGTON LONDON. AGED APP 80 ALSO FOR LOUISA GREEN BURIED 18-4-1914 ALSO AT ISLINGTON .AGED APP 62 MANY THANKS. MICHAEL