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We believe he and Frances arrived on the ship "Deborah" in 1852. There is no mention of him. The passenger list into Port Adelaide does not exist. The passenger list into Melbourne mentions a William DAVIES 22 yrs. This could be him?? - mispelt?

This is what DET referred to........

"Penzance, Cornwall, c.1933-1835"

Have you traced William's entry into Australia?

1851 for the family (except for daughter) as per 1841

Name: Frances Lloyd
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1810
Relation: Head
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Portsea, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Poplar
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 57
Household Members: Name Age
Frances Lloyd 41 Widow
Thomas Lloyd 20
Richard Lloyd 16
George Lloyd 8

Only the SERIOUSLY wealthy had holidays in the early 19th century........the concept was unknown to the masses

The info I posted for 1841 shows that only RICHARD (the youngest) was born in Middlesex.....as I stated at the time of posting. So all other family members were born in a different county - or counties.

Thank you Flick. I assumed that the Lloyd's lived in London, and that Penzance, Cornwall, was perhaps only a holiday/escape location.
Yes, I did mean 1831 and not 1931, for William Richard Manley Dawes, and yes, he was Frances husband, but the researchers here in Australia have been unable to find a marriage record in Australia or England.
That wasn't a mistake for Frances birth date - her headstone in St. Georges Cemetery, Gawler, South Australia, confuses the fact of whether she was born in 1833 or 1835.
And for your question on whether Frances was married before she came to Australia - we do not know!
Thank you again,
Cheers,

Victor3

???????1841

ONLY Richard born in County

Name: Frances Loyd
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Gender: Female

Civil Parish: Poplar
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Poplar
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frances Loyd 30
Frances Loyd 12
Thomas Loyd 11
Richard Loyd 2

Was Frances married before she went to Australia?

Victor - are we looking for Australian records? If so, it may be best to include Austalia in the title.

Also W R M Dawes - was he the husband of Frances, or is that a seperate query? As you have made an error with the yob of Frances (1933-1835), should the dob for William be 1931 or 1831?

Easily done, but could you clarify please? Thank you

:-)
DET

I am trying to find any information on Frances Lloyd (or Loyd) supposedly born in Penzance, Cornwall, c.1933-1835. She immigrated to South Australia on the ship Deborah (or Debra) (or Debro) in 1852, but unfortunately, there is no passenger list. Also, cannot find marriage to William Richard Manley Dawes, b.18.8.1931, Poplar, London, as well as, cannot find birth records of their two eldest children, Emily being my g.grandmother.